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    Mikail
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    Sbr's scam casino

    My recent BJ results.
    2:19:09
    Player Hand 22 2♣ T♣ K♥ Hit, Bust
    Dealer Hand 19 A♠ 8♦
    10.00 -10.00
    02:18:57
    Player Hand 16 2♠ 4♦ K♦ Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 20 2♣ 2♦ 6♣ K♣ Hit, Hit, Stand
    10.00 -10.00
    02:18:46
    Player Hand 22 8♥ 4♠ J♠ Hit, Bust
    Dealer Hand 17 7♥ K♠
    5.00 -5.00
    02:18:37
    Player Hand 20 J♦ Q♦
    Dealer Hand 21 K♠ A♦ BlackJack
    5.00 -5.00
    02:18:24
    Player Hand 18 3♦ A♣ 4♥ Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 19 T♥ 9♥ Stand
    2.00 -2.00
    02:18:11
    Player Hand 12 2♠ 3♥ 7♠ Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 18 T♥ 8♥ Stand
    1.00 -1.00
    02:17:58
    Player Hand 22 2♣ A♣ 9♣ K♥ Hit, Hit, Bust
    Dealer Hand 16 6♥ Q♦
    1.00 -1.00
    02:17:50
    Player Hand 17 Q♣ 7♠ Stand
    Dealer Hand 23 K♠ 3♥ T♦ Hit, Bust
    1.00 1.00
    02:17:36
    Player Hand 19 9♣ 4♦ 6♦ Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 25 T♣ 5♥ J♦ Hit, Bust
    3.00 3.00
    02:16:59
    Player Hand 23 5♠ 8♥ Q♠ Hit, Bust
    Dealer Hand 17 K♣ 7♣
    2.00 -2.00
    02:16:47
    Player Hand 22 Q♥ 2♣ Q♦ Hit, Bust
    Dealer Hand 20 A♦ 9♠
    4.00 -4.00
    02:16:33
    Player Hand 20 T♥ T♣ Stand
    Dealer Hand 20 K♠ 2♠ 8♠ Hit, Stand
    4.00 .00
    02:16:13
    Player Hand 13 4♠ 2♣ 2♥ 5♠ Hit, Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 21 8♣ 2♠ A♣ Hit, Stand
    1.00 -1.00
    02:16:00
    Player Hand 15 5♠ 3♣ 7♠ Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 23 4♥ T♠ 9♠ Hit, Bust
    2.00 2.00
    02:15:53
    Player Hand 14 5♣ 9♥ Stand
    Dealer Hand 19 T♦ 9♠ Stand
    2.00 -2.00
    02:15:33
    Player Hand 20 K♣ Q♥ Stand
    Dealer Hand 18 Q♠ 8♣ Stand
    3.00 3.00
    02:15:23
    Player Hand 19 3♠ T♥ 6♠ Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 19 4♠ 8♠ 7♣ Hit, Stand
    3.00 .00
    02:15:10
    Player Hand 18 2♣ K♥ 6♥ Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 20 Q♦ T♥ Stand
    3.00 -3.00
    02:15:00
    Player Hand 17 Q♦ 7♠
    Dealer Hand 21 T♠ A♠ BlackJack
    2.00 -2.00
    02:14:39
    Player Hand 17 3♣ 4♦ 5♥ 5♠ Hit, Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 18 7♠ A♣ Stand
    1.00 -1.00
    02:14:31
    Player Hand 18 8♥ T♦ Stand
    Dealer Hand 20 K♦ Q♥ Stand
    1.00 -1.00
    Displaying last 21 games you played.

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    Glitch
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    how unlucky would you have to be for this to happen if it was not crooked. need a mathmatician here.

    1-19-2 record by my count.
    this is not an isolated incident and a rare case of bad luck. happens all the time to almost everybody. every now and then they throw someone a bone.

    same crooked software betjamaica use to use. same that betislands and bookmaker uses.

    who makes this software anyway.
    Last edited by Glitch; 09-26-11 at 01:40 AM. Reason: edit: failed quick grade. won 4 not 1.
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    Fukkin thieves. Good reminder why I stay away from online casinos.

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    Everyone already knows the casino is crooked.. Kinda scummy of sbr to do this though.

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    I think it's called DGS software. I'm no math genius but the odds have to be pretty slim for this to happen.

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    edit after looking through it he won more than 1 game.
    Last edited by FindTheLock; 09-26-11 at 01:34 AM.

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    He won atleast 4 games. Quit your bitching Mikail and thank SBR for giving you those 4 pal.

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    having more than the dealer doesnt mean you win. 22 is a loss.

    http://sbrjohn.mysbrforum.com/blog/1...o-threads.html

    this is where sbrjohn said "I am going to ask that a history of every card ever flipped by the SBR casino be placed in a database file so it can be audited. We will see once and for all how random the software provider's random number generator really is."

    dont think we ever got that audit.
    ........................................ ..................................

    unfortunately i learned about this software the hard way- on bookmaker. but i do agree its not as bad sbr taking back their free points with it. better than our hard-earned cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    how unlucky would you have to be for this to happen if it was not crooked. need a mathmatician here. 1-19-2 record by my count. this is not an isolated incident and a rare case of bad luck. happens all the time to almost everybody. every now and then they throw someone a bone. same crooked software betjamaica use to use. same that betislands and bookmaker uses. who makes this software anyway.
    Glitch you count like a pre-schooler guy

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    yeah youre right. dealer busted a couple more times. but not that 4 wins is that much better. its almost 3 in the morning.

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    when the dealer has more than 21 it's a win as long as you don't bust first.

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    i aint got all them fancy book lernins.

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    over 0.00040% chance for 19 hands out of 20 But I think that is with perfect strategy which I didn't use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap dat 4ss View Post
    He won atleast 4 games. Quit your bitching Mikail and thank SBR for giving you those 4 pal.
    Take it easy. I'm not "bitching" it's only points. Which hold little value being I live in the U.S It's just the principal is all. Why have an obvious scam casino? Sbr know's it's ripping people off. Once again, it's not about the value. It's the principal. Why are they stealing via the betpoints casino?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    yeah youre right. dealer busted a couple more times. but not that 4 wins is that much better. its almost 3 in the morning.
    Just busting your balls

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    Mikail Sorry pal, humor is often lost in translation over the internet.

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    Oh and that's just the last 21 hands. I lost many more hands before this. Whenever I'd get a 20 so would the dealer. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap dat 4ss View Post
    Mikail Sorry pal, humor is often lost in translation over the internet.
    It's all good. I'm just bored and figured I play some sbr casino for points instead of having my cash stolen in a real online casino.

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    I made 12 points into 75 in the casino yesterday.

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    some guy won like 18k in there less than 2 weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    some guy won like 18k in there less than 2 weeks ago.
    I think those who win big supposedly in the sbr casino are just sbr's own ghosts.

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    The biggest thing I've learned from it is that you have to learn when to quit. If I'm down 10 hands, I stop, take a break, and do things around the house. I'll come back, and normally I can get some of it back.

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    if you get ahead at a game thats crooked you should definitely quit. many people never get the opportunity to quit while they're ahead.

    i dont think its sbr's fault. they didnt make the software.

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    Better to learn with points than real money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    My recent BJ results.

    xxxxxxxxxxx

    02:17:50
    Player Hand 17 Q♣ 7♠ Stand
    Dealer Hand 23 K♠ 3♥ T♦ Hit, Bust
    1.00 1.00
    02:17:36
    Player Hand 19 9♣ 4♦ 6♦ Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 25 T♣ 5♥ J♦ Hit, Bust
    3.00 3.00

    xxxxxxxxxxx

    02:16:00
    Player Hand 15 5♠ 3♣ 7♠ Hit, Stand
    Dealer Hand 23 4♥ T♠ 9♠ Hit, Bust
    2.00 2.00

    xxxxxxxxxxxx

    02:15:33
    Player Hand 20 K♣ Q♥ Stand
    Dealer Hand 18 Q♠ 8♣ Stand

    xxxxxxxxxxxx


    Displaying last 21 games you played.
    wow ... you actually won 4 hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    if you get ahead at a game thats crooked you should definitely quit. many people never get the opportunity to quit while they're ahead.

    i dont think its sbr's fault. they didnt make the software.
    They didn't make the software but they can control the amount of payout. Meaning they can make it fair odds or they can set it to steal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    They didn't make the software but they can control the amount of payout. Meaning they can make it fair odds or they can set it to steal.
    I 100% agree with this. I was on one offshore book, playing for fun, and I was up almost every time. As soon as I put money in my account, and started playing, it was like pulling teeth to get ahead. After about 3 days, I decided it wasn't worth it, and just do handicapping there now. A day later, I started playing for fun again, and low and behold, I was winning with no difficulty.

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    fking clowns always complaining about the casino......ever heard of self control.....

    dumbfuks.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naz18 View Post
    fking clowns always complaining about the casino......ever heard of self control.....

    dumbfuks.....
    what does self control have to do with sbr stealing points via the sbr casino?

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    I used to think it was rigged. Now I know it isn't.

    You're only expected to win 43% of your hands, and that's if you're playing perfect strategy. At a quick glance, it looks like some of your decisions went against the book.

    But the main issue is variance, and over 21 hands, it's very easy to have something like this happen. Also, realize that any big winning sessions you may have is just variance as well, although in your favor.

    To be fair, I've beat the casino once (for 5000 points starting with 100) and bought a custom order PS3 from the store. I've lost a couple times too, but not nearly as much. I rarely play.

    SBR also ran a 3:1 blackjack promo a couple of times recently, which put the player's advantage around 6%. I managed to win around 6000 during one of them (though it was a stake that all went toward my loan from when I cashed out $200 in gift cards)

    Point being, it's not rigged. Over time you'll lose points no matter what, simply because that's how the mathematics of blackjack are set up. The game is rigged since the house has an edge, but not because SBR is being malicious.

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    your experience was an anomaly matthew.

    i play live blackjack on the internet and in casinos all the time and ive never seen a dealer hit on 16 and get 5 so much. and this is from a very small sample size with my own experience but you hear and see things posted like this all the time.

    i think its crooked so i can not accumulate a bigger personal sample size.

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    Matt, trust me when I tell you it's rigged. I understand variance and how the house has an edge in this specific game. I know the difference between being beaten on bad beats and plain out being taken for a ride.

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    Why would anyone bet on an online casino? U cant see the dealer. U cant see if its giving you bogus cards.
    All online casinos are scams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    what does self control have to do with sbr stealing points via the sbr casino?
    You know the casino is rigged so don't play there....

    If your trying to warn others then go bump a thread, because people make a bunch of them everyday crying about the SBR casino.

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