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    Texas prisons end special last meals in executions

    Like it's not bad enough you're going to fry but they should at least allow them "a meal to die for" or would it be "a meal to die to". Either way that's just messed up.

    HOUSTON (AP) — It's a tradition with roots that can be traced far back in history: Before being put to death, a condemned prisoner can choose his last meal.

    Not so anymore in Texas.

    Officials who oversee the country's busiest death chamber stopped the practice on Thursday after a prominent state senator complained about a hefty request from a man executed for his role in a notorious dragging death. Now, inmates get to eat only what the kitchen serves.

    The controversy began after Lawrence Russell Brewer, who was executed on Wednesday for the hate crime slaying of James Byrd Jr. more than a decade ago, asked for two chicken fried steaks, a triple-meat bacon cheeseburger, fried okra, a pound of barbecue, three fajitas, a meat lover's pizza, a pint of ice cream and a slab of peanut butter fudge with crushed peanuts. Prison officials said Brewer didn't eat any of it.

    "It is extremely inappropriate to give a person sentenced to death such a privilege," Sen. John Whitmire, chairman of the Senate Criminal Justice Committee, wrote in a letter Thursday to Brad Livingston, the executive director of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.

    Within hours, Livingston said the senator's concerns were valid and the practice of allowing death row offenders to choose their final meal was history.

    "Effective immediately, no such accommodations will be made," Livingston said. "They will receive the same meal served to other offenders on the unit."

    That had been the suggestion from Whitmire, who called the traditional request "ridiculous."

    "It's long overdue," the Houston Democrat told The Associated Press. "This old boy last night, enough is enough. We're fixing to execute the guy and maybe it makes the system feel good about what they're fixing to do. Kind of hypocritical, you reckon?

    "Mr. Byrd didn't get to choose his last meal. The whole deal is so illogical."

    Brewer, a white supremacist gang member, was convicted of chaining Byrd, 49, to the back of a pickup truck and dragging him to his death along a bumpy road in a case shocked the nation for its brutality.

    It was not immediately clear whether other states have made similar moves. Some limit the final meal cost — Florida's ceiling is $40, according to the Department of Corrections website, with food to be purchased locally. Others, like Texas, which never had a designated dollar limit, mandate meals be prison-made. Some states don't acknowledge final meals, and others will disclose the information only if the inmate agrees, said K. William Hayes, a Florida-based death penalty historian.

    Some states require the meal within a specific time period, allow multiple "final" meals, restrict it to one or impose "a vast number of conditions," he said.

    Historical references to a condemned person's last meal go as far back as ancient Greece, China and Rome, Hayes said. Some of it is apparently rooted in superstition about meals warding off possible haunting by condemned people once they are put to death.

    The Death Penalty Information Center, a Washington-based anti-capital punishment organization that collects execution statistics, said it had no data on final meals.

    Since Texas resumed carrying out executions in 1982, the state correction agency's practice has been to fill a condemned inmate's request as long as the items, or food similar to what was requested, were readily available from the prison kitchen supplies.

    While extensive, Brewer's request was far from the largest or most bizarre among the 475 Texas inmates put to death.

    On Tuesday, prisoner Cleve Foster's request included two fried chickens, French fries and a five-gallon bucket of peaches. He received a reprieve from the U.S. Supreme Court but none of his requested meal. He was on his way back to death row, at a prison about 45 miles east of Huntsville, at the time when his feast would have been served.

    Last week, inmate Steven Woods' request included two pounds of bacon, a large four-meat pizza, four fried chicken breasts, two drinks each of Mountain Dew, Pepsi, root beer and sweet tea, two pints of ice cream, five chicken fried steaks, two hamburgers with bacon, fries and a dozen garlic bread sticks with marinara on the side. Two hours later, he was executed.

    Years ago, a Texas inmate even requested dirt for his final meal.

    Until 2003, the Texas prison system listed final meals of each prisoner as part of its death row website. That stopped at 313 final meals after officials said they received complaints from people who found it offensive.

    A former inmate cook who made the last meals for prisoners at the Huntsville Unit, where Texas executions are carried out, wrote a cookbook several years ago after he was released. Among his recipes were Gallows Gravy, Rice Rigor Mortis and Old Sparky's Genuine Convict Chili, a nod to the electric chair that once served as the execution method. The book was called "Meals to Die For."

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    Leave up to a racist P.O.S murderer to ruin it for the rest of killers, and rapists.

    Im not gonna sweat it

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    I would ask for some nice juicy jamaican jerk pusssssy

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    Richie would ask for some "breakfast for supper" and some of that american cheese that he couldn't afford.

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    they should starve before they die.
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    they should let them choose 2 things they want and control the quantities. its already f*cked up that they're punishing murderers by murdering, but this just made it slightly more humane.

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    good

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    Not sure why they have to eat supper if they are going to die in a couple hours.
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    I don't think this law is unique to Texas, I think other states may have a law similar to this saying, the persons last meal has to be something the kitchen has.

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    They should let the families of the victims make and serve them their last meal

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    I love situations like this that make liberals consider multiple victim groups at once.

    You hate the death penalty, and think it is unjust.

    At the same time you all think this one deserves the death penalty because the murdered man was black.

    How do you ever square all of your beliefs with one another, let alone reality?

    And fukk this guy. Once you violate someone's civil rights, you forfeit your own.

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    A murderer or rapist doesn't get to choose his last meal? I could give a shit less. They should be served catshit, and should have to be thankful to have it.
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    Good...
    Save our tax money...
    No more requests is the Correct move

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    Quote Originally Posted by statnerds View Post
    I love situations like this that make liberals consider multiple victim groups at once.

    You hate the death penalty, and think it is unjust.

    At the same time you all think this one deserves the death penalty because the murdered man was black.

    How do you ever square all of your beliefs with one another, let alone reality?

    And fukk this guy. Once you violate someone's civil rights, you forfeit your own.
    I have no idea what your post means.

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    They also get a examined by a doctor couple of hours before, to make sure they are fit enough to be executed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    they should let them choose 2 things they want and control the quantities. its already f*cked up that they're punishing murderers by murdering, but this just made it slightly more humane.
    Really? Let me ask you this.....did some of these fukks ask the little girl they raped & murdered what she wanted for her last meal? Or the dad they shot in the head for the $20 in his wallet?

    Fukk that. They're entitled to shit.
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    you know some of those people are innocent or victims of extenuating circumstances right? its just seems right to let people die in relative peace. they shouldnt be putting them down anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    Like it's not bad enough you're going to fry but they should at least allow them "a meal to die for" or would it be "a meal to die to". Either way that's just messed up.
    Bigboydan if you want to you can take care of given these piece of craps there last meal.

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    like someone said earlier, you forfeit your rights when you violate or take away somebody elses. these mofo's are entitled only to the punishment theyve been given. they caused only pain to the victims and their family and now theyre nothing more than a burden to everyone else who pays taxes
    A few months ago the prisoners in the prison near here even tried to form a union. they had a lawyer too. what a funny world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stogies View Post
    Bigboydan if you want to you can take care of given these piece of craps there last meal.
    you mean "you may" because youre giving him permission. he actually can not as your permission doesn't mean anything.

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    yeah youre right. not everyone whos in there is the violent, cold hearted criminal. theres alot of people who couldnt help what they did or they made a mistake and will realize it and regret it the entire time but then there are some who are proud of what they did and would do it again if they had another chance...


    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    you know some of those people are innocent or victims of extenuating circumstances right? its just seems right to let people die in relative peace. they shouldnt be putting them down anyway.

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    I don't know what to make of this. Seems reasonable to allow a condemned person a last meal privilege however I do understand how this can be abused and or used to somehow stifle the process of execution.

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    I'm curious BBD where this sense of sensitivity is coming from. So the individual rapes 10 underage girls and you are worried that he didnt get his favorite McD's happy meal before death? I think they should be killed off faster, and yes I know there are mistakes made. People think their lives are far more important and worth something than they are.

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    Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike-dub View Post
    yeah youre right. not everyone whos in there is the violent, cold hearted criminal. theres alot of people who couldnt help what they did or they made a mistake and will realize it and regret it the entire time but then there are some who are proud of what they did and would do it again if they had another chance...
    ... and there are some that are completely innocent ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unluckysob View Post
    They also get a examined by a doctor couple of hours before, to make sure they are fit enough to be executed.
    Yea, your right.
    Few years back, a POS was scheduled to die, and they postponed it for a couple weeks cause the fukker had the FLU or Pneumonia.
    Now, thats fukked up, gotta get you well before we can kill ya.

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    if you can do the crime, expect to be punished, We will kill you in texas if you kill one of us, screw the last meal

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    arent they just going to shit this all out ?

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    They shouldn't get anything the last 24 hours before their executed, their system will be all cleaned out........won't be mess to clean up, when they shit themselves, when that needle is inserted.

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    These ass holes can spend 1000's times this amount on $5 meatballs and $16 muffins for themselves but think it's some outrageous atrocity to fork over a few dollars for a last meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jw View Post

    ... and there are some that are completely innocent ...
    I don't buy this argument. I have serious doubts that anyone on death row is truly just some innocent citizen that got framed for a crime worthy of a death sentence. I understand there might be the occasional life long criminal who didn't actually pull the trigger, but no one there is truly some normal, everyday guy with no rap sheet. That's some Hollywood urban myth.

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    less frequent nowadays but it is very real

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    I don't buy this argument.
    Of course you don't .. and I understand why you do not want to believe that these people are truly innocent .. however the fact remains that it happens .. and many, many people have been not only convicted .. but also executed .. and have later been found to be completely innocent. It could well be you that gets ripped from your family and everyone that you love ... you could be put on death row .. you could plead your innocence all you like .. and be killed in the name of justice .. and be completely innocent of any and all charges.


    Will it happen .. probably not .. is it impossible .. nope .. not by a long shot.

    I have no problem whatsoever with killing people that are 100% beyond all doubt .. with DNA or video evidence .. guilty .. but there are FAR too many (hundreds) cases where people have been convicted, put on death row and later released (not because of the way the legal system works .. but because of new scientific evidence in most cases) that would have been killed had science not caught up fast enough to prove their conviction was a mistake .. this is not just one or two people .. it is literally HUNDREDS of people.

    http://partners.nytimes.com/library/...h-penalty.html
    "Death Sentences Being Overturned in 2 of 3 Appeals"

    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/case...e-1973-present
    Cases of Innocence 1973 - Present - 138 cases.

    http://karisable.com/crpundeath.htm
    .. more reading.
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    Who really cares? I have more important things to ponder - like has Duece ever accidentally killed his pet cat by sitting on it or what it would be like to share a football field sized bed with Coach and 199 lucky other posters...

    Sad legislators in Texas don't have the same priorities as I would bet all these meals combined cost less then this politicians spend debating, passing, and lobbying to a pass one BS bill like this...

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    How is that messed up that they dont get a "last meal"

    They already got years of extra life after they committed their crime. Fukers should be killed immediately this death row stuff is a waste of time and money and resources.

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