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    I thought the democrats were going to save online gambling

    and yet it's only gotten worse since they've got in office.

    I tried to tell everyone but you didn't listen way back when did you.

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    Damn, another far righty.

    We have enough of these BBD.

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    you can thank your fellow Republicans for the UIGEA law

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech N9ne View Post
    you can thank your fellow Republicans for the UIGEA law
    But everyone said the Dems would fix the problem though sir.

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    Don't they have a political forum this Dem vs GOP bullshyt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    But everyone said the Dems would fix the problem though sir.
    No, nobody said this. I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you are so partisan that you actually believe your own BS, but you're making a straw man argument here.

    On the issue of gambling national Democrats are far preferable to national Republicans because:

    -banning all betting on college sports is a part of the official Republican platform

    -banning all internet gambling is a part of the official Republican platform

    -Nevada books can't hang lines on the Olympics as a result of national Republican efforts

    -Congressional Republicans are overwhelmingly against legalizing & regulating online poker, whereas the Democrats are split on the issue with more in favor than opposed

    -Congressional Democrats authored and passed the bill that delayed the implementation of the UIGEA from 1/19/09 until 6/1/10 despite large scale Republican opposition.

    It has never been proposed that Democratic control of government would result in a panacea for gambling laws. What neutral observers have been saying for years is that the Democrats aren't nearly as bad on the issue as Republicans.
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    when did obama ever promise to overturn uigea?



    this is like blaming clinton for somalia when it was bush sr who shipped 50,000 troops there without a plan or exit strategy.



    plus it's a democrat, barney frank, who has been trying to overturn it without success due to gop opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    But everyone said the Dems would fix the problem though sir.
    Sure if they want to repeal the safe ports act which your scumbag party slipped the UIGEA into... what would you right wing nut jobs say then if they did that ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    when did obama ever promise to overturn uigea?



    this is like blaming clinton for somalia when it was bush sr who shipped 50,000 troops there without a plan or exit strategy.



    plus it's a democrat, barney frank, who has been trying to overturn it without success due to gop opposition.
    Liberal at heart here...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Damn, another far righty.

    We have enough of these BBD.
    Easy gay males..obama is only out to destroy American!
    Go ahead and vote for him...how does the country look now?
    Only going to get worst!

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    Make a fortune by taking foreigners money to fund the deficits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balco10 View Post
    Easy gay males..obama is only out to destroy American!
    Go ahead and vote for him...how does the country look now?
    Only going to get worst!
    he won't. he only doesn't know how to fix it

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    BBD, whats your posting quota? Also, Obama has been a failure. But I'm glad I voted for him over McCain/Palin. It looks like I will vote for him again. However, I will give Perry a hard look. You have to vote for the best candidate unfortunately that does not imply that their will be a good candidate. We'll see but I'm pessimistic again

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    Obama and the Democrats who had free reign for 2 years didn't even consider overturning UIGEA or not extending the Patriot Act or not continuing fighting wars of aggression in 3rd world countries who never attacked nor threatened America. It is just more of the same. Bush/Cheney......Obama/Biden.......Republican/Democrat......there is no difference. If you want actual change and your freedoms and liberties back then you had better start voting for Ron Paul and the Libertarians scattered across the ballots. Otherwise blue sheep and red sheep will continue to idiotically debate their differences when the only real difference is a facade pulled out of a box of Crayolas.

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    This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat. This has to do with well funded lobbyists.

    Jon Kyl--the GOP senator from Arizona vowed to enforce UIGEA to his last breath in office-----he even held up routine judicial appointments until the WH promised him more diligence on UIGEA enforcement. Then, suddenly Gary Loveman, CEO of Ceaser's Entertainment (Who just so happen to own the rights to the WSOP-----went public with his prediction/support for internet poker being legal, regulated and of course, taxed.

    Suddenly Kyl dropped his fierce opposition to anything to do with UIGEA. Why? Because Loveman loves him some GOP politicians. He throws money at them like JJ throws cash at cheap hookers. Suddenly, poker is fast tracked to be legalized by the spring.

    The Dems had a chance----Barney Frank wanted to crush UIGEA but he never demonstrated the political toughness to get it through. He folded. I am certain, if someone had ponied up, UIGEA would be dead by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balco10 View Post
    Easy gay males..obama is only out to destroy American!
    Go ahead and vote for him...how does the country look now?
    Only going to get worst!
    Watch your mouth lil boy.

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    Barney Frank is still trying to give every mammal with two legs a house. Regardless of their credit.

    he's also trying to find a tight anus

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Watch your mouth lil boy.
    what you going to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarvol View Post
    Obama and the Democrats who had free reign for 2 years didn't even consider overturning UIGEA or not extending the Patriot Act or not continuing fighting wars of aggression in 3rd world countries who never attacked nor threatened America. It is just more of the same. Bush/Cheney......Obama/Biden.......Republican/Democrat......there is no difference. If you want actual change and your freedoms and liberties back then you had better start voting for Ron Paul and the Libertarians scattered across the ballots. Otherwise blue sheep and red sheep will continue to idiotically debate their differences when the only real difference is a facade pulled out of a box of Crayolas.
    There has to be an answer to solve our problems, but so long as we remain a divided nation it will never be realized - as it is going to take some form of (peaceful) revolution and protests to make any impact. Not just words and complaining. Sad the way we have let television/entertainment and cash ruin what was once a great nation. The only answer I have come up with is to not have any children for big biz and the gov`t to exploit and/or make a soldier of, as I really don`t see things getting better no matter who is in office. Call me a pessimist. You can also call me a twat licker. I LOVE snapper!! Good luck Men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosniboR11 View Post
    what you going to do
    Nos, get the fukk outta here, before I go to Texas and whoop your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarvol View Post

    It is just more of the same. Bush/Cheney......Obama/Biden.......Republican/Democrat......there is no difference.


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    Hell move to Canada and you can play poker all you want...

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    Vote Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarvol View Post
    Obama and the Democrats who had free reign for 2 years didn't even consider overturning UIGEA or not extending the Patriot Act or not continuing fighting wars of aggression in 3rd world countries who never attacked nor threatened America. It is just more of the same. Bush/Cheney......Obama/Biden.......Republican/Democrat......there is no difference. If you want actual change and your freedoms and liberties back then you had better start voting for Ron Paul and the Libertarians scattered across the ballots. Otherwise blue sheep and red sheep will continue to idiotically debate their differences when the only real difference is a facade pulled out of a box of Crayolas.
    This. Solid post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankcream View Post
    Vote Ron Paul





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    maybe ron paul wont win, but it looks like he is truly opening the door for a third party

    then things will REALLY change

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    They weren't going to save it, just never had the intention to destroy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinBlank View Post
    This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat. This has to do with well funded lobbyists.

    Jon Kyl--the GOP senator from Arizona vowed to enforce UIGEA to his last breath in office-----he even held up routine judicial appointments until the WH promised him more diligence on UIGEA enforcement. Then, suddenly Gary Loveman, CEO of Ceaser's Entertainment (Who just so happen to own the rights to the WSOP-----went public with his prediction/support for internet poker being legal, regulated and of course, taxed.

    Suddenly Kyl dropped his fierce opposition to anything to do with UIGEA. Why? Because Loveman loves him some GOP politicians. He throws money at them like JJ throws cash at cheap hookers. Suddenly, poker is fast tracked to be legalized by the spring.

    The Dems had a chance----Barney Frank wanted to crush UIGEA but he never demonstrated the political toughness to get it through. He folded. I am certain, if someone had ponied up, UIGEA would be dead by now.


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    As martin points out, it all comes down to money.

    Anti-gambling lobbies do exist. They are funded in large part by Christian organizations and (believe it or not) certain organized crime syndicates. These groups also donate large funds to GOP lawmakers. You replace the GOP's need to kiss a bunch of evangelical ass and you remove the hindrances to legalized gambling.
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