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Beck has more upside because of his ability to throw on the run (and mobility), which is key in Shanahan's offense. With that being said, I think they made the right decision going with Rex. Beck needs more time to grasp the playbook, while Rex is very comfortable with it.Originally Posted by rm18
Rex is on a short leash. Expect Beck's name to be called after a several bone head Rex INTs.
"**** it, I'm going deep!"
-Rex
redskins are a major sleeper. tough division but their 1-2 punch at RB is 2 very highly effective relative unknowns. torrain and hightower. i would love to find redskins over 9 wins at +490
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He is not really a good QB
Wash is just average again
They lose 1st game against Giants and season is over
Grossman is terrible. It doesn't matter that he had a good preseason, when he has to deal with blitzes, hard press coverage, crowd noise, and the other pressures of the regular season, he will return to his turnover-machine ways.
if nothing else- grossman has a huge arm. dont get me wrong- i have disliked this guy as a football player for a long long time but we're gonna establish the run then hit moss, hankerson and cooley deep. the whole team might be injured by week 7 but they're gonna go balls to the wall. they're fighters.
maybe you shouldnt bet on them but i would strongly advise against betting against them.
Last edited by Glitch; 09-06-11 at 11:47 PM. Reason: spelling
Grossman won't have time to throw the ball deep, and Moss and Cooley aren't great deep targets in the first place. Cooley might be a top ten TE tops.
But it's good to know your team has "heart" and are "fighters". Those are great objective measurements. I'm sure the other 31 teams in the NFL will loaf around and not give a crap about winning. If that happens, the 'skins might scratch out 8-8.
The Redskins win at least 8 games this year. Remember I told you this, and give me points after it comes to pass.
And if you really can't believe the Redskins "benched and booted" McNabb, you obviously didn't watch him play last season. Or the few years before that in Philly, for that matter. There is a reason that the Eagles gladly shipped McNabb to a division rival, and it isn't because good ol' Donovan is still a good QB. The fact that they were willing to make that trade should have told the Redskins it was an awful idea.
i agree shanahan is out of his mind....starting grossman...starting hightower...delusional in his old age
Redskins start of 2-0. You heard it here first.
1. moss is a serious deep threat
2. cooley is strong in the middle and requires a lot of safety attention
3. that kid from miami is fast with great hands
4. thats not what i was saying that they will try to win and the other teams will not- i am talking about launching bodies with disregard for health and well-being.
5. you dont know shit about the redskins...check out their last year and preseason offensive numbers, then go watch some highlights of ryan torain...then come back and hate.
Not sure what Shannies plan is here. Sexy Rexy is awful but Beck isn't much better.
Hightower has been a beast all pre-season vs 1st team defenses. Hightower is built for the Zone Blocking Scheme Shanahan runs - 1 cut and get up field. He also can catch out of the backfield. Shanahan has always used a multi pronged running attack - expect a dose of torain and helu as well. Why would he start Beck, whom Grossman clearly outplayed in the preseason? Like I said, Grossman will be on a short leash but at this point he's ahead of Beck in experience and knowledge of the offense.
You make OK points but #3 is off. "That kid," Leonard Hankerson, will not see the field. He's even listed behind 5th round draft pick Niles Paul on the depth chart. I believe Hankerson will be a star one day but he has a long way to go.
shanahans a dumb **** but im sure even he knows they HAVE TO get this in the lineup:
guy on tv talking about how good the skins are going to be, says will be surprise
good teaser play this week
any qb named sexy should start, it doesn't matter if they win games it is irrelevant. sex sells and that is all that matters.
Redskins +3 is the play this week. The Giants have no business being favored on the road against a division foe considering all the key injuries they have.
Good post. I know I trashed the Redskins earlier in the thread, but nevertheless this is a great spot to pull an upset.
decided right now im gonna give him a chance and not hate. thats my quarterback.
as a redskins fan, disagree with these two. While Moss may still have speed, he is no longer the deep threat on the team, I can't even remember the last time he ran an all out go route. AA is a burner and their "deep threat" these days. Moss has become a very underrated possession receiver the past couple years and surely doesn't mind going across the middle like alot of receivers do. They seem to put him in a position where he can gets some YAC on quick slants and the like most of the time.
And as far as Hankerson is concerned, great hands is not something I would use when describing him. He has a serious case of the dropsies and it was a known problem at Miami, along with anyone paying any attention to training camp. He does make some spectacular catches as shown in the highlights, but he is extremely inconsistent, even had a few easy drops in the preseason which is why he is listed way down the depth chart. I think he changed his gloves 2-3 times during the past month because of his drops, I can tell you it's not the gloves but a mental problem because someone who makes some of the catches he has made shouldn't drop so many passes. Think he will get passed it though. The sleeper receiver is Terrance Austin though, catches everything and runs great routes, definitely deserved his spot this year and I can't wait to see him get some good PT this season.
moss not only still has his speed but also cunning to get the separation that makes him so open so often. but if you dont believe hes a deep thread then how about armstrong??? guys legit.
we have receivers for the first time in a long time is the point. and you'll be surprised about moss. he DOES still have his speed. moss, armstrong, donte stallworth, gaffney (denver), austin, hankerson. plus a decent little stable of RBs including hightower who can catch it out of the backfield.
-austin and hankerson are going to be great additions to this developing offense. RB depth chart is a little F*cked up but they'll figure that out. this will imspire/remind you maybe:
with the way rex throws- we'll HAVE TO run some long routes- he just like flicks the ball in your general direction, going to get picked off a lot dinking and dunking.
but we have guys that can handle that. besides the young guys that arent really goiing to play much at first.
armstrong, davis, moss...getting it done.
this might sound stupid but i was glad rex pulled those balls down and took some sacks. very good decision making skills hes showing.
Coach Shanny might have some magic still left.
Grossman showed guts passing up an easy first down on the 4th down play, instead going to the endzone for the touchdown. A miss there and the Redskins lose.
Even with Grossman (who is criticized more than he should be) they have a good team and now they are catching a bunch of breaks with the schedule. This will be a good game coming up against Dallas. The Cowboys could be seriously banged up, giving Washington a chance in a spot where I'd ordinarily think they would lose by a 3-7 pts. I've been saying Washington is an 8 win or more team, and if they keep catching breaks they could reach 10.
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