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    I Change my Vote I Voting For...........in 2012

    Ron Paul Why if this guy get rid of the Federal Reserve (scum), Bring All troops home and can save tons of money That creates more Jobs HE has my Voe for sure.. All the others are talking about the same ol shit they have been talking about for over 50 years No 100% change at all. Even getting rid of the IRS is a change no one has every made. Then he expresses people are allowed to do what the **** we want tooo without the govt telling what to do. He has my Vote

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    ONE man cannot change anything without being cockblocked by the senate/house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    ONE man cannot change anything without being cockblocked by the senate/house.
    Yea you are right so that let people know the ones that voted in the Senate and House isnt speaking the truth a bunch of lies

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    Exactly it doesn't matter who the president is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy0607 View Post
    Exactly it doesn't matter who the president is
    But there has been no effort by any of them to take even a step to get rid of the same Federal Reserve bank who ****** over America. WHY??

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    Ron Paul 2012

    Our last hope
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    There are also 34 threads about Ron Paul around here already

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    Morons flock together

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmpireMaker View Post
    Morons flock together
    And you are Voting for WHo??

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    Another one who has finally seen the light.

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    One of the many R.P. books on my shelf.......
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    Ron Paul, only politician who predicted the financial collapse. Theirs a reason those assholes on fox news, cnn and msnbc are scared of him.

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    if he goes up against Obama he will win the real debate. he just needs moreyounger people to take heed

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcojuiceman View Post
    if he goes up against Obama he will win the real debate. he just needs moreyounger people to take heed
    I can see a big % of Obama's youth vote leaving him this election...granted they may simply sit it out rather than vote for a Republican nominee ....but still. Just wish the party as a whole would realize the need for someone like Paul in order to secure the Presidency. It's one of those situations where he might not be your BEST spokesman for the entire group's ideology but it sure beats another 4 years of Obama.....along with the fact that they hold the House (with the more conservative voices to lead that area) and a real shot at the Senate (for another faction of the party) so it would benefit the overall initiative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    I can see a big % of Obama's youth vote leaving him this election...granted they may simply sit it out rather than vote for a Republican nominee ....but still. Just wish the party as a whole would realize the need for someone like Paul in order to secure the Presidency. It's one of those situations where he might not be your BEST spokesman for the entire group's ideology but it sure beats another 4 years of Obama.....along with the fact that they hold the House (with the more conservative voices to lead that area) and a real shot at the Senate (for another faction of the party) so it would benefit the overall initiative.
    Thats the problem with the rest of the party they dont really want real change what so ever

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    Obama is the truth

    Ron Paul would destroy our country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech N9ne View Post
    Obama is the truth

    Ron Paul would destroy our country
    Explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech N9ne View Post
    Obama is destroying our country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech N9ne View Post
    Obama is the truth

    Ron Paul would destroy our country
    Tell us even 2 positive economic indicators at this point in time?

    Food prices are up

    overall inflation hitting

    unemployment is up

    gas prices are up

    debt is up

    consumer confidence is horrible

    housing is still bottoming out

    poverty has risen

    college tuition is up

    health care costs still rising

    still continuing the same wars and adding more

    Gitmo is still open

    still doing warrantless wiretaps

    tobacco/smoking taxes have went up

    I'll go 10:1 examples with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    Tell us even 2 positive economic indicators at this point in time?

    Food prices are up

    overall inflation hitting

    unemployment is up

    gas prices are up

    debt is up

    consumer confidence is horrible

    housing is still bottoming out

    poverty has risen

    college tuition is up

    health care costs still rising

    still continuing the same wars and adding more

    Gitmo is still open

    still doing warrantless wiretaps

    tobacco/smoking taxes have went up

    I'll go 10:1 examples with you
    The above is the lingering results of 8 years of bush. All that mess cannot be cured in just 3 years. BTW who got got us out of that recession that bush left us? Obama did. Who saved the big three automakers in turn savinging jobs and creating jobs? Obama did. My local jeep plant is hiring for thousands of new good paying jobs. Also consumer spending os up this month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech N9ne View Post
    The above is the lingering results of 8 years of bush. All that mess cannot be cured in just 3 years. BTW who got got us out of that recession that bush left us? Obama did. Who saved the big three automakers in turn savinging jobs and creating jobs? Obama did. My local jeep plant is hiring for thousands of new good paying jobs. Also consumer spending os up this month
    How was all of that stuff Bush's fault?

    Specifics, please, not just "he sucked"

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    Anyone who becomes the President would end up the same. They always do

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    How was all of that stuff Bush's fault?

    Specifics, please, not just "he sucked"
    He is the destroyer. Combined with Greenspan, it is the caused of US losing its power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    Explain
    Same question. Explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by alling View Post
    Ron Paul, only politician who predicted the financial collapse. Theirs a reason those assholes on fox news, cnn and msnbc are scared of him.
    I have just read his book. Awesome understanding of what is currently happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcojuiceman View Post
    if he goes up against Obama he will win the real debate. he just needs moreyounger people to take heed
    Sadly he hasn't won the backing of those big companies as his sponsors

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    One of the many R.P. books on my shelf.......
    I recommend this to everyone who wants to know economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alling View Post
    Ron Paul, only politician who predicted the financial collapse. Theirs a reason those assholes on fox news, cnn and msnbc are scared of him.

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    Tech- so you are arguing that 3 years of policy - spending and stimulus and regulations as well as predicted jobs plan of more green building which is not pisitive value for the cost combined with more taxes on producers- has had no effect on things? The slight bumps out of recession levels was only a temporary prop....were falling again due to reality in accounting and consumption. Its like a kid working at burger king making $7 hr who has no assets but gets a one time check...takes it to the club and acts rich buying drinks and tipping big but wakes up the next day rigbt back to reality of bein broke and no savings....looked good for a night though!

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    Its just a matter of time before the libertarians rise to power because current democratic and republican values are unsustainable long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nookx View Post
    Its just a matter of time before the libertarians rise to power because current democratic and republican values are unsustainable long term.
    Exactly. Just the numbers and trends point that way. The more people being able to get news and info from sources other than teaditional media who are eitber left or right and refuse to give rise to middle of the road third party candidates and ideals is key. Couple that with the traditional 40% vs 40% base of voters and leaves the other 20% of independents who always sway elections and its coming soon...peeling off voters from the bases who are disgruntled with the 2 party system every election. The left has had the howard dean phenomenan...obama's hope and change....the right has had the current tea party movement but I say current since its arguable that Ron Paul began the real tea party ideals years ago that have been mostly stolen to link with social issues outside of intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech N9ne View Post
    Obama is the truth

    Ron Paul would destroy our country
    This guy is right. Although Obama hasn't followed through with all his promises. He is the lesser or any evils.

    Ron Paul is a Pro-life nut.

    Deregulation of financial markets and economy will cause further corruption and collapse.

    An audit of the fed will result in an unspeakable lack of accountability that will rattle the US to its core and cause an international panic.

    No separation of church and state.

    He doesn't support funding for education and medicare.

    Before voting in 2012, please do your research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ijenpo View Post
    An audit of the fed will result in an unspeakable lack of accountability that will rattle the US to its core and cause an international panic.
    What the hell are you talking about here? Do you even know what an audit is?

    Audits are about going through the books with a fine-toothed comb and uncovering discrepancies. Audits are about making sure you're doing what you say you're doing. Audits are about making sure you are following the rules that are in place.

    How in the hell you can say that will "result in an unspeakable lack of accountability" is beyond me. If anything audits INCREASE accountability. Most rational people predict that if we did audit the Fed we would realize there is no longer a need for its existence.

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    Just my opinion, but why would anyone vote for a Repub with all the shit that went down
    over the ceiling bullshit deal? Jesus Christ, they were voting down their own proposals!

    That party is all screwed up, fighting amongst themselves and the debates are hilarious.

    We definitely need a strong leader to crack the whip on everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ijenpo View Post
    This guy is right. Although Obama hasn't followed through with all his promises. He is the lesser or any evils.

    Ron Paul is a Pro-life nut.

    Deregulation of financial markets and economy will cause further corruption and collapse.

    An audit of the fed will result in an unspeakable lack of accountability that will rattle the US to its core and cause an international panic.

    No separation of church and state.

    He doesn't support funding for education and medicare.

    Before voting in 2012, please do your research.
    Do your research?

    Ron Paul has said many times it isn't the federal government's role to ban abortions.

    Regulation of the financial markets has led to corruption and economic collapses. To think this or any other industry can't regulate itself, allow good companies to thrive, allow poor companies to fail, and allow consumers to make choices is absurd.

    If the FED is so murky, opaque, and corrupt then not only does it need to be audited....it needs to be shut down.

    No separation of church and state???? Puff, puff, give cause you obviously ain't paying attention. Without Ron Paul churches have managed to obtain tax-exempt status, blackmail federal, state and local governments into passing everything from blue laws, to absurd liquor laws, to zoning laws that prohibit certain legal businesses from opening within certain distances of churches, to laws banning prostituion, drugs, gambling, and whatever else the religious nutbags decided they don't like.

    Education is mostly funded at the local level. The Department of Education has been a complete failure. It hasn't done a damn thing to improved education in America. Medicare is the world's largest ponzi scheme. It needs to be unwound. Any sane person who can do basic math has figured this out.

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