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    Why is TB - 210 Favorites Tonight???

    what a strange, strange line





    these 2 teams have basically the same record and while Price is a better pitcher, the difference isn't drastic (about 1.40 in ERA)




    I thought this game would be about - 140 for TB. WTF??

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    Penny is no good on the road and Price is TB top pitcher. Plus TB has been playing good ball and their winning streak was just snapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferndog View Post
    Penny is no good on the road and Price is TB top pitcher. Plus TB has been playing good ball and their winning streak was just snapped.

    detroit has won 4 straight themselves and I would argue James Shields is TB's top pitcher



    I just don't get how you can have a -200 favorite between 2 teams with identical records

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    -210 is a little excessive, but as a Tigers fan I can let you know why I threw a lot on the Rays. First, Penny isn't good anywhere and Price is way better. Second, Leyland is throwing out three backups in our lineup (Maggs, Inge, Raburn). 3rd, the Tigers have won 4 in a row and hate long winning streaks.

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    david price is one of the best pitchers in the league. hes top 5 active to me.

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    books probably dont want any action on it. Or theyre willing to gamble that Det doesnt win. TB looks like a no brainer play but who wants to lay -210? so you lay off or bet Detroit and hope. But losing isnt an option so it is a no play for most guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    david price is one of the best pitchers in the league. hes top 5 active to me.





    he's not even top 40 in the league in ERA, what are you smoking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post






    he's not even top 40 in the league in ERA, what are you smoking?

    come on Brah

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post






    he's not even top 40 in the league in ERA, what are you smoking?
    His ERA this season is not representative of his talent level. Just negative variance.

    You value short term stats way too much. Just like you think going 30-10 is god-like.

    Doesnt mean shit

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    -140?!

    There's a serious difference between Price and Penny.

    And don't look in ERA. It's a very misleading stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post




    he's not even top 40 in the league in ERA, what are you smoking?

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    Line is too high but there is no real value on either side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawley View Post
    come on Brah

    How is he a top 5 pitcher anyways??


    he's not even the best pitcher on his own team (that's shields)



    Verlander
    Weaver
    Halladay
    Lee
    CC
    Beckett



    6 pitchers that are a mile better just off the top of my head

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post
    How is he a top 5 pitcher anyways??


    he's not even the best pitcher on his own team (that's shields)



    Verlander
    Weaver
    Halladay
    Lee
    CC
    Beckett



    6 pitchers that are a mile better just off the top of my head
    Beckett is a "mile better" than Price? What?

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    Forget the price.

    What I dont understand is - it says on Donbest Weather that the game is played in a dome.

    Now scoreboard shows that the game is currently under rain delay ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post


    How is he a top 5 pitcher anyways??


    he's not even the best pitcher on his own team (that's shields)



    Verlander
    Weaver
    Halladay
    Lee
    CC
    Beckett



    6 pitchers that are a mile better just off the top of my head
    Im not talking about whether he is top 5

    I am talking about you referring to ERA

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Beckett is a "mile better" than Price? What?


    based on this season's numbers, absolutely




    have you looked at beckett's numbers?? Especially in a great hitters park like Fenway

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post
    based on this season's numbers, absolutely




    have you looked at beckett's numbers??
    Have you watched them pitch?

    The fact that you'd include Beckett on a list and not Kershaw makes me question your sanity anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawley View Post
    Im not talking about whether he is top 5 I am talking about you referring to ERA


    I realize it's just one of the numbers that you can use to evaluate pitchers but I was only using it as an example

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Have you watched them pitch?

    The fact that you'd include Beckett on a list and not Kershaw makes me question your sanity anyway.



    2.40 ERA in the AL in a great Hitters park>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2.60 ERA in the NL in a great pitcher's park




    Kershaw's era on the road: 3.39

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    era does tend to suffer when you play in the same division as the redsox and yankees. hes nasty brah. that not even top 40

    halladay, lincecum, price, hernandez, verlander

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    era does tend to suffer when you play in the same division as the redsox and yankees. hes nasty brah. that not even top 40 halladay, lincecum, price, hernandez, verlander

    price over weaver, CC and beckett??? are u retarded???

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    Not much interest in this babble, but I am using brah from now on in all my conversations

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    still talking about ERA is showing the mentality of people. WHIP is a much more relative stat, too bad more people realize it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post




    he's not even top 40 in the league in ERA, what are you smoking?


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    David Price is a top flight pitcher, no doubt.

    His WHIP this season is even lower than it was last season.

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