ttrace35... I agree with you about Chins. But I think Dips are equally important. A buddy of mine has been going to the Gym for 2 years straight and every time he comes over I try to get him to do some Chins or Dips on my old school Soloflex(yes, the soloflex sucks but it's great for Chins and Dips which is all I need it for) and he still can't do any. For those that can't do any chins... I recommend starting out with Negative Chins. Start from the top and lower yourself down as slowly as you can. Do this for a few weeks and you'll be able to do regular chins in no time. Like Trace said... Chins are one of the best exercises a person can do. I think the reason why people hate them so much is because it's virtually impossible to cheat when doing a Chin.