Originally Posted by
wantitall4moi
I cant do the math for you, but whatever. Even cherry picking teams with a lot of 1 run losses still doesnt show much of an improvement.
Besides you also fail to realize in your over zealousness to try and look smart that I would say 7 or 8 of those 1 run losses were when they were favored and thus the +1.5 wouldnt apply, unless you laid a lot of heavy juice on an alternate runline. And I am also sure that when they were dogs they probably werent enough of a dog to make them a positive expectation in the + runline area either.
Like I said I cant do the math for you but I would be willing to bet that betting nationals on the blind as dogs on the ML would be more profitable than betting them +1.5 RL on the blind. Even though in theory it is supposed to equal out, and even cherry picking a team like the nationals you still cant show a profit betting it. I would say betting them as dogs on the ML would have you up close to 5 units. Since they won about 5 or 6 games this year at +150 or more, a couple they won at +200 if I am not mistaken, so with your +1.5 RL those wins would have been reduced to around even money and or less depending on how you bet.
Trust me I was betting baseball before half you guys were born, and probably making a living betting sports before most of you go off the tit, so you arent going to show me anything that will prove anything to me in terms of results.
Bet Sea ML for the 260 or whatever it got to and call it a day. If they do lose and lose by exactly one run and you do happen to collect the +115 on your +1.5 , you got lucky, nothing more nothing less. It is basically insurance against a 'bad beat'. and it ia sucker bet. But keep using stats that are flawed to try and convince yourselves or others that betting the +1.5 runline is profitable or makes sense.
But just another lesson here, Sea got up to about +128 or so on the RL, so not only compounding a bad bet, but compounding it more with a badly timed bet.
Like I always say wins and losses dont matter it is what you get paid or lose in the course of collecting both that matters. Baseball is an excellent teacher for this because even cherry picking a team like the Nationals you still cant show a great improvement, if any at all. 30-35 or something like that as a dog. You gain maybe 12 wins if you bet them +1.5. So you go to 42-23. Your 35 losses go from -3500 (100 per unit) to 23 times whatever you had to lay for the +1.5, so if you had to lay an average of -150 you're probably breaking even. I know tonight there were around -190 on the +1.5 RL at +115 or so ML. So your 30 wins go from a +135 or so average (4000 or so for the 30 wins) for to having to lay around -130 or so So you go from laying a total of 7500 for a 500 dollar profit to laying 9750 (generous) for more than likely a loss. Sure you might collect 9500 but it cost you 9750 to do it. I said I wouldnt do the math, and I didnt but that was an educated guess. i am sure someone can pull it right up on how profitable they are this year as a ML dog and also as a +1.5 dog. But if I had to guess I would say +500 on the ML and with that many extra wins and the odds I have seen them at as dogs maybe +250 on the +1.5 runline, and that is cherry picking a team with a dozen one run losses. Start looking at teams who dont lose too many games by one run when theyre a dog and it isnt even close.
So if you guys want to pull stats out of your ass at least know how to use them.