1. 07-21-11 03:08 PM #1
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    If Reds get Jimenez or Shields, They will probably win the central...

    Their bullpen is coming together...

    Have a solid offense/defense...

    Need One more solid starter to go with Cueto and they may be able to do it..

    Pirates: No chance

    Brewers: Starters are not good enough, wont upgrade.. . bullpen very average..

    Cardinals: See Brewers (with even worse bullpen)
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  2. 07-21-11 03:11 PM #2
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    I think you could say any of the contenders in the Central could become favorites if they were to pick up either of those pitchers.
    Pittsburgh has a lot of young kids who play there ass off. If you infuse some veteran rentals into that line-up they could easily steal the division.
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  3. 07-21-11 03:16 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishFace5 View Post
    I think you could say any of the contenders in the Central could become favorites if they were to pick up either of those pitchers.
    Pittsburgh has a lot of young kids who play there ass off. If you infuse some veteran rentals into that line-up they could easily steal the division.
    True, but the Pirates already have a set rotation, who are they going to demote if they brought in a top flight starter?

    this goes overlooked every trade deadline...

    Some teams hitch their wagons to guys like Greinke, Lohse, Maholm so they don't upgrade...

    Reds have no problem sending guys like Leake, Arroyo, etc.. to the bullpen (mainly because they are VERY average) and making a deal...
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  4. 07-21-11 03:54 PM #4
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    Being a Reds fan i agree if they got 1 of them i think things would come together nicely, Leake has actually been great of late, and Cueto is lights out. They are only 4 out and are about to bust and turn things around!
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  5. 07-21-11 04:01 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    Their bullpen is coming together...

    Have a solid offense/defense...

    Need One more solid starter to go with Cueto and they may be able to do it..

    Pirates: No chance

    Brewers: Starters are not good enough, wont upgrade.. . bullpen very average..

    Cardinals: See Brewers (with even worse bullpen)

    which team has the most games left to be played vs Hous and Chic?
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    Reds i believe
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  7. 07-21-11 04:06 PM #7
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    It goes without saying.

    If the Cards got Jimenez or Shields they'd also probably win the Central. These teams are very close. If you add in a top player, of course they likely win the division.

    Brewers also, but they don't really have anything to trade in terms of minor leaguers.

    Pirates need more help than one player can provide.
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  8. 07-21-11 04:15 PM #8
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    you peeps have no faith but I'll back the p-rates over your reds and the odds will be big!!! can't beat them know won't beat them later even if you upgrade... clint NL manager of the year!!!!! I"D even throw in a top pitcher like roy or cc... p-rates raise the jolly rodger!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    True, but the Pirates already have a set rotation, who are they going to demote if they brought in a top flight starter?

    this goes overlooked every trade deadline...

    Some teams hitch their wagons to guys like Greinke, Lohse, Maholm so they don't upgrade...

    Reds have no problem sending guys like Leake, Arroyo, etc.. to the bullpen (mainly because they are VERY average) and making a deal...

    Get rid of Maholm if u can get one of these guy's!!
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    Agree Yisman, just dont think the other teams have as much to offer as the Reds, those teams wont want cash they will want high valued prospects.
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    dise-pa if the Reds can't win the division i sure as hell don't want it to be the Cards or Brewers, so i would then be pulling for your Bucos!
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  12. 07-21-11 04:42 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    Brewers: Starters are not good enough
    they have one of the best rotations in baseball

    bullpen very average..
    wrong, try top 5


    where did you come up with this stuff????
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  13. 07-21-11 04:45 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by God1 View Post
    they have one of the best rotations in baseball



    wrong, try top 5
    So they have one of the best rotations in baseball, two of the best hitters in baseball, a top 5 bullpen, and they are struggling to hang with the fukkin Pirates!!!!

    How is the kool-aid?
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    you are just clueless man i don't know why i even bother with the little guys that wager lollipops and betpoints but i'll throw you a bone

    brewers overall pitching 4th in baseball in SIERA....starters 2nd, bullpen 4th

    http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.aspx?...0&season1=2011
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    everybody has a chance at this point in the division i still believe in the brewers but its a flip of the coin at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by God1 View Post
    you are just clueless man i don't know why i even bother with the little guys that wager lollipops and betpoints but i'll throw you a bone

    brewers overall pitching 4th in baseball in SIERA....starters 2nd, bullpen 4th

    http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.aspx?...0&season1=2011
    take your stats and 70 posts to the think tank...

    show me the stat line of Greinke's 2 best starts out of his last 10...
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  17. 07-21-11 05:40 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    take your stats and 70 posts to the think tank...

    show me the stat line of Greinke's 2 best starts out of his last 10...

    what like 7 IP, 4 H, 1 ER. 10K 0BB and 6 IP 5H, 0ER,8K, 2 BB ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gryfyn1 View Post
    what like 7 IP, 4 H, 1 ER. 10K 0BB and 6 IP 5H, 0ER,8K, 2 BB ?
    He's an underdog tonight.. You gonna post a screenshot of your Brewers ticket??
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  19. 07-21-11 05:47 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    He's an underdog tonight.. You gonna post a screenshot of your Brewers ticket??
    No but i'll happily tell you that I have a big bet on the brew crew tonight
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  20. 07-21-11 05:58 PM #20
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    reds hitting .219 since the break..... but they need a pitcher?

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  21. 07-21-11 06:21 PM #21
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    Brewers game basically a pick'em tonight. Both sides - at Pinnacle for the last hour.
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  22. 07-21-11 06:25 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    Brewers game basically a pick'em tonight. Both sides - at Pinnacle for the last hour.
    Yisman,

    Points for a year on Tonights game?

    I take D-Backs...
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