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    HedgeHog
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    SBR always had BOS rated correctly--there was always significant risk with this Book. I loved betting there, one of the best +EV Books for me. Gave some back at the bitter end, but it was still a good ride overall. This rebate check was the icing on the case--rip BOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    SBR always had BOS rated correctly--there was always significant risk with this Book. I loved betting there, one of the best +EV Books for me. Gave some back at the bitter end, but it was still a good ride overall. This rebate check was the icing on the case--rip BOS.
    Well said.

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    I haven't received anything yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prick View Post
    yo nobs sbr never had BoS higher than c+. that mighta been generous but damn sure wasnt no A rating



    7/18/2006 06:09 AM
    betonsports downgraded from D to D-
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    6/13/2006 10:13 AM
    betonsports Group downgraded from C- to D
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    6/10/2006 08:35 AM
    betonsports downgraded from C to C-
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    6/8/2006 03:26 PM
    betonsports Group downgraded from C+ to C
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    3/25/2006 12:07 PM
    betonsports Plc Group upgraded; BetOnSports from C to C+
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    2/19/2006 10:40 PM
    betonsports raised from C- to C
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    12/27/2005 07:25 AM
    betonsports upgraded from D+ to C-
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    11/24/2004 02:22 PM
    betonsports Downgraded from C to D+
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    10/24/2004 12:29 PM
    betonsports lowered from C+ to C
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    7/29/2004 10:27 AM
    The RIO Group upgraded: BetRio raised from B to B+, Skybook raised from B to B+ and IISportsbook raised from B to B+. betonsports raised from D+ to C


    Prick,

    BOS was originally called MVPSPORTSBOOK, and VWAGER. During the years of 1995-2004 or 2005 something in that range, MVPSPORTSBOOK and VWAGER were both A books everywhere and were even included in top 10 lists. Dalton Wagner advertised like crazy on all the forums, and once SBR started accepting advertising, he was advertising here as well.

    There were many warning signs from Dalton's book. He advertised everywhere and seemed to always be offering the deposit $200 get $50 cash free with 2X rollover. There were many slow pay complaints and I myself was being slow paid for $2000 at MVPSPORTSBOOK. I posted my complaint at therxforum.com and will banned me after I kept complaining in my usual blowhard fashion.

    I also contacted Bill Dozer and my complaint didnt really go anywhere. I got paid in time because Dalton knew I was posting on all the boards. Daltons books were A everywhere.

    Dalton's books then disappeared and became the BOS family of books and by that time I think everyone knew it was only a matter of time. So you are right that Dalton never had an A rating under the BOS name, but he had it for years under MVP/VWAGER. fact is, what he did was nothing more than a trick to make it look like he wasnt the one who ran with your money. BOS was Dalton.

    That would be like the greek realizing they are bankrupt. So Spiro says he sold out to lets say www.theprick.com, but theprick.com is in fact still Spiro. then a few months later theprick.com goes bankrupt. That wouldnt change the fact that the book had an A rating for years. Now I know Spiro wouldnt do that, but Dalton did.

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    I completely forgot about my money there til I saw this thread. If I ever see a check it'll feel like money found in old clothes after moths ate up 95% of it.

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    Once a marquee sponsor here at Gambling911.com, MVP Sportsbook was bought by BetonSports early this year for an undisclosed amount of money and some shares. The deal was reportedly "performance based" and since BetonSports has shut its doors just weeks before the busiest betting time of the year (start of American football), MVP Sportsbook founder and CEO Dalton Wagner can't be performing very well.

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    How did they decide it would be 4.68%?

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    SBR Ratings from 2004

    I can provide the link, just not sure if I am allowed as its from therx.com


    Cascade (SBR rating B)
    LasPalmas/WitEuro (SBR ratings B /B+)
    Bodog (SBR rating B-)
    VWager (SBR rating B )
    Allworld (SBR rating C+)
    Gibraltar (SBR rating C+)
    Rio family (Rio/IIS C+, Skybook C, Click&Bet D)
    Millennium (SBR rating C)
    Bluegrass (SBR rating C-)



    Where are cascade, vwager, mvpsportsbook, millenium, aces gold, hollywood, etc. today? These ratings were from 2004 after VWager had been dropped to B but there was a time they were an A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brick View Post
    How did they decide it would be 4.68%?

    I only got 4.63%.

    They probably took what money they recovered and divided it up by all the claims. I would say BOS had 4.63% of what it owed.

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    conyo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..bless this thread..I never vthought I would see ten cents..Got a check for 28 bucks and bought me a sack

    Check was on my fruit table in kitchen for days..I thought it was junk mail..May have thrown out a letter or two that looked similar recently

    I HAVE~A QUESTION???

    I had accounts at BOS-Beth he Oock-jaguar milleneum and mvp each with 2-3 hundred dollars in them

    You guys think this is a settlement for all combined in one check..or will I get a check for each book???

    Anyone else get more than one check??

    I know Im not the only one who had money at more than one umbrella bos book


    Im happy to have gotten anything wrote this off years ago

    I dont give two fuks about the ratings

    these freakin books were good..they always all paid me with no bull shit

    betonsports even sent me to the sony erickkson open one year because I bet almost every tennis match on the board each day

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    4.6% is actually a lot. Normally its around 3%. Lawyers gotta get their cut.

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    I had $550 on my account. Looking forward to my $20 check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brick View Post
    How did they decide it would be 4.68%?
    Brick,

    According to the report of the assigned liquidators, they established about $28 million in liabilities, with about $1.3 million in assets to pay back. That's how they came to 4.63%.

    Here is the thread with the SBRtv summary of the liquidation:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...n-summary.html

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    Here's all you need to know about the F'n US Gov't. BOS could have paid their customers in FULL, if not for the Gov't not giving an shit about their citizens, and stealing OUR money. As much as BOS is to blame for this, our Gov't is more to balme. Not that it's anything new, but it still continues to disgust. This from the final liquidation report.
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    Application to the US Attorney General to release funds
    In the middle of 2009 we were advised that one of the original founders of the Betonsports group had reached a settlement with the US authorities in respect of various offences he had allegedly committed whilst in control of the company. The sum of US$43 million was seized from this individual by the US Department of Justice. Our lawyers in the United States advised that the liquidation estate might have had a legal claim to some or all of these funds, and accordingly work was undertaken by our firm and our legal teams to lodge a petition with the US Attorney General laying claim under US Remission proceedings. The claim was rejected by the Department of Justice on the basis that the funds represented the settlement of a fine, and were properly due to the US government. Upon receiving further legal advice in the United States as to the likelihood of success and costs involved in pursuing the matter further, the claim was abandoned.

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