[WileOut]

dlunc Halladay and Lee are 2 aces on one team. Of course Halladay is maybe best in baseball. Hamels is doing great right now but history tells us that he isn't as good as he is doing. Oswalt is past his prime.

Comparing the 2 staffs, i would take halladay and lee from philly, but then beechy and hudson from braves. Beechy has dominating stuff. He is a man. The real difference is the bullpen. Braves have the bullpen that every team wants. I think the Braves are better pitching staff from top to bottom and it shows in the stats. BUT you do have to factor in that we play half the games at turner field. But it is hot and humid there every night so how much of a pitchers field is it really? The dimensions are not as crazy as some are like San Diego.

I think Hamels will fall a little in 2nd half, Oswalt will stay at upper 3 ERA. Oswalt is not an ace anymore. It's not comparable to Smoltz, Glavine, Maddox who were in the same team throughout their prime.

[sonyman]

jj has been pitching great this year- verlander, doc, cliff lee and others pitching very well this season.

[dlunc3]

I personally would disagree on Hamels, as we all saw what he had back in the 2008 playoffs. He is just starting to come into his own at age 27, much like cliff lee did. He has been up and down, but his career 3.41 era with 1.15 whip is not bad. He has nasty stuff and I could see him keeping this pace. Maybe i am just a homer though you are right about oswalt, but he was pitching like a top 5 pitcher the second half of last season and to start this year. Since he started 3-0 and got hurt, he hasent been the same.... so who knows how he is gonna look when he comes back.

I will agree that the braves pen is better.. but at the same time, the phills is very underrated and up and coming. They have only blown one lead all year in the 9th inning. When healthy, madson bastardo and stutes have great arms, and contraras and lidge arent bad. Its when baez and herdon are forced to pitch that the pen looks like a joke.

I do think lee halladay and hamels give smoltz glavine and maddox a run for their money though.

[BRAVES1985]

guys its maddux not maddox

[underthe total]

i will be at the phils ATL series
its gonna be fun

[BRAVES1985]

i will be at the phils ATL series its gonna be fun

the last series of the season? the other 2 series are in philly

[underthe total]

yes sir i have not looked but i knew it was late in the season

[underthe total]

yeah its last 3 days of season
cant wait just hope the games mean something

[BRAVES1985]

nice! both teams will be locked into playoff spots by then

[underthe total]

yes i hope they play for home field, if its for nothing it will blow

nothing left on braves schedule worth seeing

marlins
nats
rockies
pirates
cubs

giants

dbacks
dodgers

[TrapperDapper]

It seems like every time the Braves get a sweep the Phils also do too. It's so disappointing.

[underthe total]

unless they get some injuries in that pitching staff, the braves gonna have a hard time catching them

playing for wild card

[WileOut]

jurrjens is not as good as his ERA. Look for him to get rocked 2nd half. Good pitcher with really good command but never will be great. He doesn't have the stuff.

It has started, 1st game back. Look at the closing line today. -163 with a sub 2 era at home vs a terrible team? Books know he is a good but not great pitcher. Fade in 2nd half, especially up against really good pitchers at even odds.

If not for McCann who may go down as the best offensive catcher of all time when its all said and done, Braves lose today. Lost the runline. Went way over but Natties will do that to a 7.5 total a lot.

[BRAVES1985]

It has started, 1st game back. Look at the closing line today. -163 with a sub 2 era at home vs a terrible team? Books know he is a good but not great pitcher. Fade in 2nd half, especially up against really good pitchers at even odds.

braves cant hit lefties at all

nats always give braves a tough game

since the end of 2008 they are .500 against braves does not matter whose pitching

[pavyracer]

Braves won 9-8. Guy has a bad day and all of a sudden he is junk. You guys are clueless.

[Redscot]

Jurrjens is a very good pitcher, I think he is due to come back to earth a bit if you look a little deeper into his numbers. Today was just a bad day. I'd take him on my team any day.

[dlunc3]

what happened to this guy?

[dlunc3]

he is one of the top pitchers in today's game

if i start a team he is my first pick for my rotation right now

he playing anywhere these days?

[WvGambler]

Unsigned free agent I believe.