[jjgold]

Housing buried
Jobs buried
Currencies buried
Debt buried

[jarvol]

That is all old news and priced into the stock market. The market may go down 10-20% but that is far from a collapse. That could be viewed as just a healthy correction though it did breakdown thru its 50 and 100 day moving averages this afternoon. That isn't a good sign near term.

The real problem is the greedy old fukkers in this country who think it is their right to receive 10x or 100x or even more in Social Security and Medicare than they ever paid in and who are effectively blackmailing anybody Congress who would even attempt a small reform to those 2 ponzi schemes let alone phase them out as should be done.

[SBR_John]

nah.. looks like more of a quarter or two pause while the world works through some mismanaged debt issues. Stocks will continue to be bought as long as there is no competition from dividend & interest investments.

[Iced]

Once QE2 ends, the recession will begin. I give it two years.

[Brock Landers]

i fukking hope not, enough of this bullshit already

[jarvol]

Once QE2 ends, the recession will begin. I give it two years.

That is possible but the 10 yr yield is now at 2.9%. Somebody other than the FED has been buying up bonds so unless they just stop buying I don't see it. QE is and was overrated in my opinion.

[Iced]

That is possible but the 10 yr yield is now at 2.9%. Somebody other than the FED has been buying up bonds so unless they just stop buying I don't see it. QE is and was overrated in my opinion.

The only reason the stock market got "better" was because the Fed printed $1.6 trillion worth of base money. (Of course, this is a fake recovery, printing money does not help.) This is the third bubble in twelve years the Fed has created. The Fed needs to be abolished.

[jjgold]

The only reason the stock market got "better" was because the Fed printed $1.6 trillion worth of base money. (Of course, this is a fake recovery, printing money does not help.) This is the third bubble in twelve years the Fed has created. The Fed needs to be abolished.

Post of year

1000% correct

We are in a false economy

[Brock Landers]

Post of year 1000% correct We are in a false economy

so whats going to make everyone better off Ace?

[Br0nxer]

so whats going to make everyone better off Ace?

[agharah1]

Uh, guys? If ending QE2 is going to cause a recession....why not just don't end QE2? I mean its not like interest rates are going up, and core inflation is still weak. Sure oil is going up, but its not demand related and we all saw how easy it was to force speculators out of the market by just raising margin requirements. Corn is up but almost 50% of corn is used to create worthless ethanol as a welfare program for Iowans who for some reason get to vote for President first. I could understand New Hampshire which has both a small population *and* is a small state but traveling through Iowa takes forever just to see a handful of people.

And of course Gold is up but I have yet to find someone who can explain why I should care. On the whole Gold in and of itself is pretty worthless except that its rare so it used to be used as money.

The only explanations for why we shouldn't do more QE that I've heard so far are pretty much folk wisdom and superstition. It makes me think the real reason the economy hasn't recovered is that people are just plain being too irrational.

[Scorpion]

US default could be disastrous choice for economy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110424/...efault_what_if

[Brock Landers]

market is down a little over 150 in the last 2 days and people are shitting?

[rem sleep]

Don't really follow the market but I do think bad times are gonna happen to the stock market sooner rather than later.

[Grits n' Gravy]

so whats going to make everyone better off Ace?

Start posting your rubber bands every day and we'll all be Bill Gates rich soon.

[Iced]

The only explanations for why we shouldn't do more QE that I've heard so far are pretty much folk wisdom and superstition. It makes me think the real reason the economy hasn't recovered is that people are just plain being too irrational.

Because QE doesn't actually help the economy. It only makes the economy look good statistically. Printing money, which essentially all QE is, only creates bubbles. QE can make the economy look good in the short term, but it's devastating in the long-run.

[bradnowell]

f\*\*k i thought now was the time to buy

[Going4Broke]

Insurance companies buy the majority of government bonds and they just lowered their caps on most products. Glad I got a lot of clients in a few weeks ago!

[Iced]

f\*\*k i thought now was the time to buy

Correct. Time to buy silver.

[lemart5]

Us managers are hard pressed to find yield .Nothing is holding up anymore and you never know what you are going to get piling into commodities right now.Volumes have been down along time and I don't see the average investor moving money into the markets.As far as corporate bonds go the money has been made there as the trips on some of thes things are barely above the 3.5 % inflation mark.I would be very careful with corporates alot of these sales are stupid take Norfolk Southern with a 100 year yeilding 3.7% inflation could easily
be 18% tomorrow.As far as Greece goes let them default it's not gonna be the first or last country to do it.Continuing on to the currency markets I am short the Yuan long the dollar.

[lemart5]

QE3 would be dismal Bernanke is already surpressimg interest rates .My charts have stagnant growth in the US for a long time.Same situation is happening over again banks issuing loans to unworthy people.

[mr.inpak]

I hope not my question is where would you put your money if not in stocks you cant get more then 2% intrest in cds

[lemart5]

I hope not my question is where would you put your money if not in stocks you cant get more then 2% intrest in cds

25% in Cds 20% in corporate bonds yeilding more than 3.5% 25% in the Dow 30 ( only the ones that pay dividends)

[I/O]

everything is in cycles

ALWAYS have options

today is today, there's money to be made................tomorrow there's money to be made

[8ArIvd5]

jjgold thriving

[King Mayan]

Fukk it let it tank....

America needs a depression, too many soft muthafukkas around here.....

We need sacrifice and hard work to come back.....

[treece]

china owns our ass. that commercial with the chinese professor is very true.

[sweethook]

things dont look good coach

[Skidcom]

Plus Junes have been generally terrible for the last decade

[blackbeSSt]

Correct. Time to buy silver.

nah that ship sailed already im afraid. will never be high 40's or more like it was a month or so ago.

[pavyracer]

Sell in May buy in November. Always win win situation for the savvy investor.

[jjgold]

Good point Paver


Anyone giving money to brokers or any investment bank or company is a real fukkin jerkoff
All they do is buy and sell and rape you with commissions and your money never grows

Put money in bank now your better off and i you do ake some trades do it yourself and place like E-Trade, Scott, Ameritrade as they all have tools for you to make it easy..

Brokers are touts and scums

[lemart5]

Good point Paver


Anyone giving money to brokers or any investment bank or company is a real fukkin jerkoff
All they do is buy and sell and rape you with commissions and your money never grows

Put money in bank now your better off and i you do ake some trades do it yourself and place like E-Trade, Scott, Ameritrade as they all have tools for you to make it easy..

Brokers are touts and scums

You are the biggest fool here you really think people entrust us with money just to have it no grow?If you believe that's what we do then you are dumber than I thought.

[SBR_John]

You can still make 7% in A- rated preferred stocks and they pay quarterly.

The deal with preferred stocks is they never mature. So you need a ladder-in strategy to cost average and you need to use the portion of your portfolio reserved for those investments you hold for 10+ years or more.

[TexansFan]

QE3 is coming, believe it.