[Cloak & Dagger]

Pick up a newspaper, do a little research before act like you know what you're saying. You type like a 12 year old.

So the scum bags can get their food stamps, grants, and other cash from the successful people of this country because they would rather buy dubs and louis vouiton instead of going to college or putting a roof over their heads?

lmfao

stop acting like you worked for what you have

this is my last post in this thread....you need a reality check little man

tell your parents they did a great job

[Deuce]

Every time you think Bill Clinton has sunk low, he surprises you. He sinks lower. But what's really depressing is how he does it. He's so casual, so slick, almost offhand about it, and sometimes for no reason except to score one more cheap political point.
If this former president had only been sparring with his usual critics, a comment of his the other day wouldn't be worth noting. We've come to expect that kind of gamesmanship from him.
But this time he was using as grist a real tragedy and horror, a debacle that cost the lives of 18 American fighting men and tarnished the honor of the United States. Just to make a debating point.
Replying to those who've argued that the rash of corporate scandals now sweeping the country actually began under his watch, Bill Clinton threw off this little line:
"These people ran on responsibility, but as soon as you scratch them they go straight to blame. Now, you know, I didn't blame his (George W. Bush's) father for Somalia when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that."
Not before now, anyway. Why would Bill Clinton want to drag up what happened that day in Somalia, and inject it into a debate over corporate governance? It's a puzzlement. Maybe he just can't seem to resist saying anything he thinks will make him look better.
There is, however, a perfectly acceptable reason why he did not blame his presidential predecessor for what happened October 3, 1993, in Mogadishu: The first President Bush had nothing to do with it.
George H. W. Bush had already concluded the American mission in Somalia when Bill Clinton gave some of the best troops in the United States Army a new mission -- without proper support. The result was there for all Americans to see and shudder at: a charred body dragged through the streets to the gleeful howls of the mob. It's a scene scarred forever on the American mind, and one that should have been branded on their commander-in-chief's conscience. In all, 18 American soldiers were killed that day and 73 injured.
Looking back, it's hard to see what military errors were not committed at Mogadishu: Faulty intelligence, disregard for the element of surprise, poor coordination, lack of adequate support . .
Perhaps worst of all, the Clinton administration reacted to the disaster by pulling out, turning tail and giving up, thus sending the wrong signal to every would-be Osama bin Laden in the terrorist netherworld: The United States will run at the first sight of blood.
In short, the expedition was in every respect a disaster. Brave men were lost not through any fault of their own, but because of decisions made in clean, well-lighted rooms by politicians far away.
A new secretary of defense, a congressman chosen mainly on the basis of his criticisms of the previous administration, failed to meet a pressing request from the troops for tanks and other armored equipment. Les Aspin turned down both the commander in the field, Major General Thomas M. Montgomery, and the then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Colin Powell. Dispatching the needed equipment might have caused a stir in Congress, and politics came first, as usual.
When the awful toll became clear, some of us wanted Secretary Aspin to resign then and there. Instead, he waited two months. To his credit, when he did quit, he acknowledged his responsibility for the terrible events of that day, and the terrible decision of his own that had led to it. End of story. But there will never be an end to the grief. And regret.
You would think that, if there was anything in his administration Bill Clinton might like to forget, it would be Mogadishu. Instead, almost on the fly, he brings up the subject in the course of a pointless spitting match over corporate finance. As if what happened there were just another talking point.
What could he have been thinking? I suspect he wasn't.
The boy seems to make no distinction between the real and unreal, Hollywood and Mogadishu. Even when he brings up that awful day, it's in connection with the movie. Bill Clinton has never been short of sentimentality -- he'll gush on short notice -- but there is no sense of emotional gravity there.
Remembering Mogadishu, I begin to understand those who said Bill Clinton should never have been impeached. He should have been court-martialed instead.

Sooo, what's the topic of discussion? Iraq? Have we beat that to death yet? Congress voted to go there as well as your favorite clown Obama. What are you telling me?

[Kingctb27]

You think I am gonna read that buddy? I am looking for an internship with a big 4 accounting firm right now, something a lib like yourself would never be about to do.

[Deuce]

lmfao

stop acting like you worked for what you have

this is my last post in this thread....you need a reality check little man

tell your parents they did a great job

You're clueless and are a horrible debater. You have now brought insignificance into the equation twice. I have proven you wrong countless times. Walk back to your shanty with your tail between your legs. Coming from little and becoming what I am today says a lot about my character. I feel for you.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Sooo, what's the topic of discussion? Iraq? Have we beat that to death yet? Congress voted to go there as well as your favorite clown Obama. What are you telling me?

[Cloak & Dagger]

You're clueless and are a horrible debater. You have now brought insignificance into the equation twice. I have proven you wrong countless times. Walk back to your shanty with your tail between your legs. Coming from little and becoming what I am today says a lot about my character. I feel for you.

ok Ricky Schroeder

[Deuce]

Do you realize what happened there and how many lives were taken? 1,463,277 people died. It's not even close to becoming Vietnam. What happened in Vietnam you can also thank Democrats for.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Do you realize what happened there and how many lives were taken? 1,463,277 people died. It's not even close to becoming Vietnam. What happened in Vietnam you can also thank Democrats for.

we've been there 19 years farmboy...while our troops die your parents cheat the IRS with frivolous write offs and pad your trust fund so you can come on SBR forum and cry to the world about how you worked for everything you have and feel you should be exempt from paying taxes on your parents hand me down fortune

2 weeks my friend....THEN ITS YOUR MOMMY AND DADDYS TURN TO PAY UNCLE SAM....8 YEARS OF BACKPAY....WHOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA

[Deuce]

we've been there 19 years farmboy...while our troops die your parents cheat the IRS with frivolous write offs and pad your trust fund so you can come on SBR forum and cry to the world about how you worked for everything you have and feel you should be exempt from paying taxes on your parents hand me down fortune

2 weeks my friend....THEN ITS YOUR MOMMY AND DADDYS TURN TO PAY UNCLE SAM....8 YEARS OF BACKPAY....WHOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA

Do you realize how the Gulf conflict started? Has their been 19 years of war? Are you fukking clueless?

Are you really 12? My parents pay taxes, don't cheat on them, or write anything off that isn't entitled. I have indeed put myself through college with out a single dime from them, I work two jobs, am a full time student, and still don't expect government subsidy. I work for who I am and what I want to be. I don't expect others to work for me. I pay taxes. I can't wait for your next gem of a post.

[FRITO]

It must be lonely out there in BUSH loving land. (dimwit dynasty)
(GW BUSH = WORST PRESIDENT EVER)
Anyone that can't see that must be from another planet.
(don't be shy BUSH fans - read all of these and get a grip on reality)

George W. Bush -- History's Worst President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsziT-oDgqE

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/pro...ent_in_history

http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/150

http://harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002804

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120101509.html

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0708-27.htm

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes070706.DTL

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070226/howl

http://www.antiwar.com/eland/?articleid=13452

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120101511.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert...a_b_41874.html

http://chrishowell.com/2008/10/07/gw...resident-ever/

[donjuan]

BBD is just trolling to stimulate page views and traffic.

[frostno98]

Obama's going to be president, and all the Right wings like it or not is going to have to choke on it. Just like the Dems did in 2000, when bush lost the popular vote, and stole the votes in FLorida.

It's just retribution from God my friends. The equation is just balancing it self out like in the Movie the Matrix

[daggerkobe]

neocons really do live some bizzaro world of make believe.

Bush's accomplishments:

1. 9-11. He had the "blueprint" to prevent it from ever happening, according to the many Republicans that made up the 9-11 Commission. All he had to do was do his fvcking job!!!!!! The 4000 that died that horrific day will be waiting for him when he croaks.

2. Quadrupled gas prices by artifically manipulating the market. He purchased oil from private refinaries in 2001 which doubled the price of barrel of oil overnight.

3. Vietnam 2. Fabricated evidence and lied to invade a harmless and unarmed Iraq. According to his own biographer he had been planning the invasion prior to becoming president. His stupidity has cost the US over 5000 soldiers lives, 100,000 Iraqi lives, $500 Trillion. Many parts of Iraq are still under enemy control. Mission accomplished my azz.

4. Refused to sign a mandate to increase MPG by just 1 mile which would've saved over 20 million barrels of oil a year.

5. Lowest approval rating in history. He scored less than when Nixon resigned in shame.

6. Record deficits. Clinton left with record surplus and Bush went on a spending spree like a rich spoiled brat with mommys credit card.

7. Allowed predatory subprime lenders to proliferate because he was too busy bragging about people becoming first time homeowners under his watch.

There are many more reasons why he is the worst president of all time but my fingers are getting tired. He will leave office with the lowest approval rating of any president. Clinton left with the highest ever.

[HedgeHog]

I think BBD has earned a spot on his "Wheel of Banishment".

[Santo]

If it wasn't for George W Bush we wouldn't have stopped Saddam Hussein and his terrorist attacks against the fine people of the USA.

Remind me again which terrorist attacks (against the US people) Saddam Hussein was responsible for..

[Poker_Beast]

I think BBD has earned a spot on his "Wheel of Banishment".

[Stumpage]

BBD stirred the hornet's nest with this one.....Nice job Dan; Mission accomplished.....

[durito]

Is BBD the dumbest poster in the history of Sports Gambling forums?


I vote yes.


Stick to posting piss poorly written basic info about sportsbooks. That's what this forum is for.

[Deuce]

[Cloak & Dagger]

I think BBD has earned a spot on his "Wheel of Banishment".

[WestsidePete]

Since when did BBD become MS61853 ??

[Cloak & Dagger]

Since when did BBD become MS61853 ??

[topgame85]

I wish he could run for election again as well so he could get 2% of the votes from idiots like you, sorry BBD but you have lost your god dam mind he made laws that violate our constitutional rights and attacked a none aggressive nation

[McBa1n]

I think Katrina unto itself makes Bush the worst president ever and the greatest failure by our nation ever.
How some knucklehead like me with an internets connection can know what was going on for DAYS before our government responded is incredible to me.

I just can't ever forgive any of that administration for all those AMERICANS that died that didn't have to while they were all off fund raising or buying shoes and watching Spamalot. It makes me sick.

That entire administration is treasonous for those acts.

[Panic]

Now I know some of you guys don't like him at all, however I feel he did a good job overall with this country after Clinton ran it into the ground.

Best BBD post ever!

[pavyracer]

I also wish GWB run for president again. He would have been the first candidate ever to lose all 50 states based on his current 20% approval rate.

[Panic]

Bush would be the first guaranteed 3 term Pres.

[FadeThePublic]

BBD I have lost all respect for you. I'm sure your just trying to generate web traffic but to say something that stupid is just ridiculous

Look how fuked we all are after 8 years of bush.

Thats what happens when idiots in America vote a Texas oil tycoon into office twice

Your brainwashed BBD

[reno cool]

I think Katrina unto itself makes Bush the worst president ever and the greatest failure by our nation ever.
How some knucklehead like me with an internets connection can know what was going on for DAYS before our government responded is incredible to me.

I just can't ever forgive any of that administration for all those AMERICANS that died that didn't have to while they were all off fund raising or buying shoes and watching Spamalot. It makes me sick.

That entire administration is treasonous for those acts.

inexcusable

[flyingillini]

I would vote for him again in a heartbeat... it is the "in" thing to bash George Bush, I think overall he did a great job and think he is a hell of a guy.

[frostno98]

If September 11 never happened would Bush even get re-elected, his 2nd term was entirely based on a National tragedy and benefited from the still grieving nation. Prior to sept 11, Bush had the lowest approval rating of any President ever elected. He benefited from a horrific terrorist attack, where everyone in this country had to stand behind the President, hence giving him the highest approval ever after that. I'll give him props for that, because I thought he did a great job that day and responded back to the attacks aggressively by going into afghanistan.

But one great achievement does not make for the ecomony mess he put us in, the hurricane katrina mishaps, and fighting an unjust Iraq war that was declared because of WMD's that was never found.

[pavyracer]

I would vote for him again in a heartbeat... it is the "in" thing to bash George Bush, I think overall he did a great job and think he is a hell of a guy.

Thank you Barbara.

[Panic]

Thank you Barbara.

Sure thing Hillary.

[bigboydan]

Sure thing Hillary.

Now I would have voted for Hillary if she won the nomination sir. I felt she had some very good ideas.

[etothep]

I think some people like getting trolled on here