El Niño's NHL Thread

**boeing power** · 03-19-13, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo

This is probably a dumb question here, but whats the difference between regulation and 1st 60 min bets?

I assumed they were the same thing, until I saw Pitt 1st 60 min is -225 and Montreal 1st 60 min is also -225.

Regulation bet is the same as -1/2 in 60 minutes.
Your team has to win in regulation or you lose your bet.

If you bet penguins -220 ML first 60 minutes you win your bet if the pens win in regulation but if the game goes to overtime it is considered a push.

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 12:06 PM

Added: Los Angeles Kings Regulation (-105)

I wouldn't be surprise if LaBarbara gets the start for the Yotes tonight just to shake things up. Smith has started 21 of the last 22 games and it's a rare back to back road game against the same team. Plus he could use the break. I'm comfortable with either Quick or Bernier. I added this early as I believe the line will only get worse and if LaBarbara is announced more people will jump on the Kings line.

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 03-19-13, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by boeing power

Regulation bet is the same as -1/2 in 60 minutes.
Your team has to win in regulation or you lose your bet.

If you bet penguins -220 ML first 60 minutes you win your bet if the pens win in regulation but if the game goes to overtime it is considered a push.

Thanks for explaining Nino.

**bald_guy** · 03-19-13, 12:43 PM

With Bovada there is no regulation betting. You get 2 choices. Moneyline (which includes overtime/shootouts) and -1.5 or +1.5. The +1.5 is the underdog, and the -1.5 is the favorite. As an added twist, they give -xxx payout for +1.5 and +xxx payouts for -1.5.

Perhaps 5 dimes and BookMaker offer 3 ways to bet. Regulation, +-1.5 and ML?

**Huckleberry Pig** · 03-19-13, 02:16 PM

went big on Canadiens and Kings, took Pens for a medium play. Appears we are on the same teams today, GL tonight.

**ChicagoBlackhawk** · 03-19-13, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by bald_guy

With Bovada there is no regulation betting. You get 2 choices. Moneyline (which includes overtime/shootouts) and -1.5 or +1.5. The +1.5 is the underdog, and the -1.5 is the favorite. As an added twist, they give -xxx payout for +1.5 and +xxx payouts for -1.5.

Perhaps 5 dimes and BookMaker offer 3 ways to bet. Regulation, +-1.5 and ML?

Bovada is brutal. They know the real way to get good lines is regulation bet thats why they wont offer it. Makes no sense to not offer it other than that. That really angers me alot bc I won't lay -220 on a team lol

**tombuckers** · 03-19-13, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by El Nino

3/19

Pittsburgh Penguins Regulation (-125) 2u
Montreal Canadiens Regulation (-125) 2u
St. Louis Blues (+105)

YTD
68-45-1 +39.66u

Will most likely be a play on the Coyotes/Kings game after goaltenders are announced.

Like your plays today Nino. GL.

**dk70** · 03-19-13, 03:53 PM

1 unit on the Kings?

**nbballaz7** · 03-19-13, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by El Nino

2-1 -1.04u

First 3u loser since 2/5. Damage minimized.

I think you are a bit off here? I think you are closer to -2.5 units yesterday??

**TC Woods** · 03-19-13, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by nbballaz7

I think you are a bit off here? I think you are closer to -2.5 units yesterday??

So what!

**Dollars2Donuts** · 03-19-13, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by nbballaz7

I think you are a bit off here? I think you are closer to -2.5 units yesterday??

No...he won two one unit plays, lost one 3 unit play.....throw in the juice and there ya go.

D2D

**odog11** · 03-19-13, 05:55 PM

Like the picks, with you on Habs and Penguins in regulation. Still looking at the Blues, but will most likely play it as I have the Canucks on fade only alert and they are back to back. I just think they have been overvalued here for a while, missing Kesler and not Luongo not in top form.

Throwing in a play on the Devils. Rangers back to back and on a long run without two days off and travel between every game.

**boeing power** · 03-19-13, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by nbballaz7

I think you are a bit off here? I think you are closer to -2.5 units yesterday??

When he bets 3 units at -150 he risks 300 to win 200 not risking 450 to win 300.

**boeing power** · 03-19-13, 06:00 PM

Good luck El Niño,

Letang is out for pens but hopefully they still roll.

**nlin** · 03-19-13, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by boeing power

Regulation bet is the same as -1/2 in 60 minutes.
Your team has to win in regulation or you lose your bet.

If you bet penguins -220 ML first 60 minutes you win your bet if the pens win in regulation but if the game goes to overtime it is considered a push.

Thanks for the explanation.

5Dimes doesn't have regulation bets, does it?

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by bald_guy

With Bovada there is no regulation betting. You get 2 choices. Moneyline (which includes overtime/shootouts) and -1.5 or +1.5. The +1.5 is the underdog, and the -1.5 is the favorite. As an added twist, they give -xxx payout for +1.5 and +xxx payouts for -1.5.

Perhaps 5 dimes and BookMaker offer 3 ways to bet. Regulation, +-1.5 and ML?

Bovada has terrible lines for hockey and bases. You can get some value on dogs in NFL and the teasers are ok. It's a rec book.

**fitguy67** · 03-19-13, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by boeing power

When he bets 3 units at -150 he risks 300 to win 200 not risking 450 to win 300.

There are generally three possible ways of designating a set of x-unit bets...

A. "TO RISK"...here whether dogs or faves, you risk "x" to win whatever the odds imply. This is popular among Euro-bettors.

B. The American or "hybrid" system: here you risk "x" for dogs BUT you play faves TO WIN "x"...

AND there's another, far less popular method of betting (that I use and swear by)...it's...

C. "TO WIN". here you bet everything, whether dogs or faves to win the specified units (risking whatever the odds imply to do so)
_____________

Nino, I've always been assuming u've been using B, like most around here...but nbballa7's question (and it is a good one) and boeingpower's response (also a good one)...have me curious...

Do you operate the European "to risk" method, the American "hybrid" (dogs to risk/faves to win) system, or are you a fellow non-conformist and bet everything "to win".

**nbballaz7** · 03-19-13, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts

No...he won two one unit plays, lost one 3 unit play.....throw in the juice and there ya go.

D2D

His 3 unit loss was at -150. Which makes is a 4.5 unit loss. I tailed so that is how I know how many units were lost.

im not trying to start anything I think Niño is great, I just think it was a mistake.

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by dk70

1 unit on the Kings?

As stated in post #1, All bets are 1u risked unless otherwise stated. Looks like Bernier and Smith in net. Didn't realize that Smith was yanked after giving up 4 goals on 22 shots last night. Go Kings!

**Russian Rocket** · 03-19-13, 06:43 PM

BOL Nino

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by nbballaz7

His 3 unit loss was at -150. Which makes is a 4.5 unit loss. I tailed so that is how I know how many units were lost.

im not trying to start anything I think Niño is great, I just think it was a mistake.

3u lost is -3u @ -150 or -100000000. It's 3u risked, not to win 3u.

1u risked to win 1.05u on the over yesterday = +1.05u

1u risked to win 0.91u on the Kings = +0.91u

3u lost on Vancouver = -3u

1.05 + 0.91 = 1.96u subtract 3u lost = -1.04u

It's all in SBR's Spreadsheet. There are zero mistakes with my units.

**Dollars2Donuts** · 03-19-13, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by nbballaz7

His 3 unit loss was at -150. Which makes is a 4.5 unit loss. I tailed so that is how I know how many units were lost.

im not trying to start anything I think Niño is great, I just think it was a mistake.

Please just read all of the above comments explaining why he did not make a mistake. Everyone has laid it out very clearly.

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by Huckleberry Pig

went big on Canadiens and Kings, took Pens for a medium play. Appears we are on the same teams today, GL tonight.

Originally posted by tombuckers

Like your plays today Nino. GL.

Originally posted by odog11

Like the picks, with you on Habs and Penguins in regulation. Still looking at the Blues, but will most likely play it as I have the Canucks on fade only alert and they are back to back. I just think they have been overvalued here for a while, missing Kesler and not Luongo not in top form.

Throwing in a play on the Devils. Rangers back to back and on a long run without two days off and travel between every game.

Originally posted by boeing power

Good luck El Niño,

Letang is out for pens but hopefully they still roll.

Originally posted by Russian Rocket

BOL Nino

Boys, BOL

**fitguy67** · 03-19-13, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by El Nino

As stated in post #1, All bets are to risk the specified #units unless otherwise stated. Looks like Bernier and Smith in net. Didn't realize that Smith was yanked after giving up 4 goals on 22 shots last night. Go Kings!

Nino, is that an accurate re-statement?...

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by fitguy67

Nino, is that an accurate re-statement?...

Yup. So my 3u @-150 play on Vancouver yesterday was to win 2u. 1u play on Kings @-110 netted me +0.91u.

It's all units risked.

*Didn't realize there was confusion on that.

**ItsMeMrMattE** · 03-19-13, 07:18 PM

f ing canadiens. i should have known not to trust anything having to do with canada.

**bald_guy** · 03-19-13, 07:21 PM

I'm watching the Pens game, but got my phone reporting action on the Montreal game. Looks like we are 2 behind already. Sure hope things turn around. Also, Latang not in the Pens game, ouch.

Think we might need a bit of help to come out ahead on the first 2 games. Lets hope we get it.

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 07:33 PM

Yeah, Canadiens better pull their heads out. Can't be losing to shit teams at home. I figured Letang would be out. Teammates tend to pick up the slack for the first few games.

**Dollars2Donuts** · 03-19-13, 07:51 PM

Let the floodgates (Holtby) open!

**nbballaz7** · 03-19-13, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts

Please just read all of the above comments explaining why he did not make a mistake. Everyone has laid it out very clearly.

Thanks for clearifing I have been playing if wrong the whole time :X lol.

sorry for the confusion boys!

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by nbballaz7

Thanks for clearifing I have been playing if wrong the whole time :X lol.

sorry for the confusion boys!

Saul good.

**Huckleberry Pig** · 03-19-13, 10:07 PM

after the montreal loss I decided to chase my $250 on Kings in reg and added $450 on Kings ML, come on Kings!

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by Huckleberry Pig

after the montreal loss I decided to chase my $250 on Kings in reg and added $450 on Kings ML, come on Kings!

Yeah, Canadiens was a tough loss. Fought back but too little too late. We needed some Sens magic. Hopefully the Kings get it done. I may have to put the Canucks on my do not bet list for a bit. Bipolar team.

**Dollars2Donuts** · 03-19-13, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by Huckleberry Pig

after the montreal loss I decided to chase my $250 on Kings in reg and added $450 on Kings ML, come on Kings!

Playa Alert!

I threw $120 on the Canucks and $168 MORE on LA.....

Good luck!

**El Nino** · 03-19-13, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts

Playa Alert!

I threw $120 on the Canucks and $168 MORE on LA.....

Good luck!

Your Canucks are killing me, Donuts! At least the Dominican Republic RL came through.