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    Obama is really just part of the military industrial bankster cartel

    http://rjones2818.blogspot.com/2008/...gn-policy.html

    In remarks made over the weekend in Seattle, Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph Biden warned that Barack Obama, if elected president, would be compelled to take deeply unpopular actions in both domestic and foreign policy within months of taking office.



    Remember that Obama has promised to increase the size of the military by 100,000. Remember, also, that he has voted to fund the Iraq debacle every time except last Octoberish (which was due to the primaries coming up - he voted for more funding once it was clear he was going to be nominee). What could be unpopular on the foreign policy front? On the domestic side, there won't be any money for general programs if the military gets expanded (not to mention the trillion dollar black hole of bailing out the banksters and the bosses, which Obama was complicit in passing).

    In closed-door gatherings with two audiences of Democratic Party insiders and fundraisers, Biden forecast a major international crisis in the first six months of an Obama administration.



    Biden's a hawk. Why would another country choose to test the US when there's a hawk sitting near the seat of power? My guess is that Obama and Biden will be looking for anything that can be considered a provocation. One wonders if they would consider the recent Georgian war as a provocation?

    The most politically significant portion of Biden's remarks came when he admitted that the decisions of an Obama-Biden administration were likely to be deeply unpopular, and he called on the Democratic Party regulars to stand behind the new president even when public opinion turned against him.



    Get in line and shut up! Biden's warning can't be clearer. We know best, so trust us. You're either with us or against us. Obama/Biden don't understand that's where we're at today, and their supposed to change that. So much for 'hope,' eh?

    Here is the voice of a longtime representative of the financial aristocracy, voicing his contempt for public opinion—"if decisions are popular, they're probably not sound"—and warning his wealthy audience that the new Obama-Biden administration will have to defy public opinion to carry out its policies. Biden's language suggests that the ferocity of the new administration's response will shock not only public opinion, but even its own supporters.



    You've been warned by Joe. Thank the political Gods he shoots off his mouth. Can we really trust these men anywhere near the corridors of power?

    Foreign policy journals and pundits linked to the Democratic Party have undoubtedly been discussing many such doomsday scenarios, and Biden's language suggests that the use of the US nuclear arsenal, the world's largest, is under consideration by those who are formulating the foreign and military policy of an Obama-Biden administration.



    Boom!

    Biden's expectation of widespread popular hostility to an Obama administration applies not only to foreign and military policy, but to domestic policy. He told the Seattle audience, "I promise you, you all are going to be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls, why is the polling so down, why is this thing so tough?' We're going have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years."



    We can look forward to an austerity budget, except for the bankers, bosses and generals. The money that could be used for rebuilding our industrial base won't be there.

    Obama won the Democratic presidential nomination by presenting himself as the more consistent antiwar candidate, and the Democratic ticket in public pledges to end the war in Iraq and adopt a less militaristic stance. But behind closed doors, before select audiences of the financial and political elite, Biden has given a glimpse of the real perspective of the Democratic wing of American imperialism.



    Keep all of this in mind as you head to the voting booth November 4. There are alternatives available, and some may even not be tied to our military industrial bankster cartel.

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    No one around here has done more to make the Democrats look like the right choice than you ms.

    Keep it up and bring it home!

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    God help us

    A black man running this Country, they cannot even run sports programs so how the fuk they going to run the Country??

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    Get in line and shut up! Biden's warning can't be clearer. We know best, so trust us. You're either with us or against us. Obama/Biden don't understand that's where we're at today, and their supposed to change that. So much for 'hope,' eh?

    So Obama is just going to be Bush III?

    Suckers!

    LOL

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    MS dude, many won't admit it but they miss you

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms61853 View Post
    Get in line and shut up! Biden's warning can't be clearer. We know best, so trust us. You're either with us or against us. Obama/Biden don't understand that's where we're at today, and their supposed to change that. So much for 'hope,' eh?

    So Obama is just going to be Bush III?

    Suckers!

    LOL
    Well, if you think he's going to be Bush III, shouldn't you like him?

    Weren't you against him not long ago because he was going to reduce our presence in the Middle East and reduce military spending?

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    Here you imply Obama will cut (or freeze at t he minimum) military while spending heavily on every social program. You make him out to be a dove. Now he's a hawk a week later?

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/politics-e...ats-obama.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC View Post
    Well, if you think he's going to be Bush III, shouldn't you like him?

    Weren't you against him not long ago because he was going to reduce our presence in the Middle East and reduce military spending?
    Well, I don't think that. I think it's a hoot that there are leftards out there for whom Hussein Osama isn't left enough.

    But with Biden spewing his cryptic lines about how an Obama Presidency will "generate a crisis," and "you won't like what we do, but stick with us anyway," it does make you wonder what they are thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms61853 View Post
    But with Biden spewing his cryptic lines about how an Obama Presidency will "generate a crisis," and "you won't like what we do, but stick with us anyway," it does make you wonder what they are thinking.
    It seems many are skipping by these comments and instead slandering you in general. Why is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyL View Post
    It seems many are skipping by these comments and instead slandering you in general. Why is this?
    Some of us aren't complete ****ing morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    God help us

    A black man running this Country, they cannot even run sports programs so how the fuk they going to run the Country??
    He's only half-black, jj. So he'll only screw it up halfway. Not totally, like white Bush did. Nor with nuclear war, like McCain would (but won't get the chance)

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    Some of us aren't complete ****ing morons.
    Your bet on Obama is already cashed, relax. Instead focus on the comments Biden made and draw a logical inference? Ms even linked an audio clip of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyL View Post
    It seems many are skipping by these comments and instead slandering you in general. Why is this?
    Because they want the whole issue to go away so we can go on to important issues such as the status of "Joe Plumber's" plumbing license or Sarah Palin taking her kids with her while performing State business in Alaska.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyL View Post
    Your bet on Obama is already cashed, relax. Instead focus on the comments Biden made and draw a logical inference? Ms even linked an audio clip of them.
    I do not have any bets on Obama.

    The comments make perfect sense. Try using your pea sized brain to figure it out.

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    Pres Obama is not going to seriously dent the Military/Insdustriral Complex (MIC) that Eisenhower warned agaisnt in his farewell address.

    Of course, neither is McCain.

    Nor is President Obama going to go after the 2nd amendment, regardless of his personal beliefs re firearms. NRA controls a lot of national politicians, just as does the Hotel Lobby, regardless of which party is in office.

    More a change of style than substance. But McCain has exhibited much poorer judgment than has OBama.

    Exhibit A: His bizarre choice of a running mate.

    Ex B: His supporting the bailout, which most Americans opposed. It was his one chance to gain a foothold with an angry electorate,and he blew it. Bad judgment again.

    Ex C: His insistence that, without provocation, Russia one fine day decided to simply invade Georgia. (And which could, by McCain's reasoning, lead to a nuclear battle with Russia)


    I'm no party person, and see the feet of clay that Obama indeed has, but McCain is a dangerous old loser, with incredibly poor judgment and assessment ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyL View Post
    It seems many are skipping by these comments and instead slandering you in general. Why is this?

    A much better question would be, "Why would anyone actually read ms61852's comments at this point?"


    Ms receives respect and is taken seriously in exact proportion to the ongoing quality of his posting.

    He wants credibility, he just wasn't willing to earn it by being credible. And it's too late now. Classic boy-who-cried-wolf scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudcat View Post
    A much better question would be, "Why would anyone actually read ms61852's comments at this point?"


    Ms receives respect and is taken seriously in exact proportion to the ongoing quality of his posting.

    He wants credibility, he just wasn't willing to earn it by being credible. And it's too late now. Classic boy-who-cried-wolf scenario.
    Exactly. If he had posted true information without his bullshit we could have all had a lively debate instead of wondering if delivering pizzas had affected his mind in a negative way. All we get is malicious slander and racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudcat View Post
    A much better question would be, "Why would anyone actually read ms61852's comments at this point?"


    Ms receives respect and is taken seriously in exact proportion to the ongoing quality of his posting.

    He wants credibility, he just wasn't willing to earn it by being credible. And it's too late now. Classic boy-who-cried-wolf scenario.
    Translation: I am unable to respond to Biden's comments because I can't do so without having to acknowledge this Obama/Biden ticket is scary as hell.

    I mean, come on, Obama will "generate a crisis" and "you're not going to like what we do, but support us anyway"?

    You won't comment on it because you know there is no justification for remarks like this.

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