1. 05-24-11 02:47 PM #1
    lemart5
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    Just had a chat with Tony of 5dimes about the offshore situation.

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.
    You are now chatting with 'Robbie'
    Robbie: Welcome to our live chat service, how may I help you?
    Tll: May I speak to Tony
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    Robbie: Just a moment please
    Please wait while I transfer the chat to 'Tony'.
    You are now chatting with 'Tony'
    Tony: how can I help you today?
    Tl: Hello Tony
    Tl: I have a few questions
    Tony: greetings
    Tony: sure thing
    Tl: How safe is your shop after the recent offshore shakeups?
    Tony: if taking a domain name is a shakeup, i'm not exactly "shaking"
    Tony: www.5dimes.ag
    Tony: or some other name that isn't .com .net .us .org
    Tony: will be available
    Tl: How will you continue to maneuver through this environment?
    Tony: you mean not using a processor run by the US Government ?
    Tl: Well put
    Tony: there will always be a way for clients to send us funds
    Tony: there will always be a way for us to send funds to clients
    Tl: How closely are you watching the situation?
    Tony: close enough to know we didn't use that processor
    Tl: Well Tony the players of SBR thank you for answering these questions.
    Tony: and i wouldn't worry about bookmaker either
    Tony: transfers as usual with them
    Tl: business as usual
    Tony: seems to me that the total effect of this is to change from .com to .ag
    Tony: other than that, i don't see the sky falling in any way
    Tl: Good to hear.
    Tl: You have a good one .
    Tony: you too
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  2. 05-24-11 02:49 PM #2
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    wow a chat log by Tony where he was nice... and top it off lemart is the one who chatted with him.

    the sky is falling
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  3. 05-24-11 02:51 PM #3
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    Now everyone should feel a little bit safer!
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  4. 05-24-11 02:54 PM #4
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    I remember my first fiction story.
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  5. 05-24-11 02:59 PM #5
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    Lemart left out the part at the end where he says to Tony......


    "Now go get your shine box!!!"
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  6. 05-24-11 03:03 PM #6
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    Tony sounded way too nice...couldn't have been Tony.
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  7. 05-24-11 03:04 PM #7
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    Tony is actually very nice to people who are down at his book.
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  8. 05-24-11 03:05 PM #8
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    If you believe anything Taylor posts here...you've got bigger problems than a processor issue
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  9. 05-24-11 03:09 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemart5 View Post
    Tony is actually very nice to people who are down at his book.
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  10. 05-24-11 03:11 PM #10
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    "Everything is fine!!!! Keeping sending money!!!!"
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  11. 05-24-11 03:14 PM #11
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    Let me ask you something, if this isnt going to do anything then why would the GOVERNMENT do this and why did it work for poker and not sports betting.
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  12. 05-24-11 03:18 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Sanchez View Post
    If you believe anything Taylor posts here...you've got bigger problems than a processor issue
    may be tony was being nice to taylor cause he knew about his grandma dying.
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  13. 05-24-11 03:24 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVBOUND View Post
    Let me ask you something, if this isnt going to do anything then why would the GOVERNMENT do this and why did it work for poker and not sports betting.

    What exactly do you mean by "why did it work" for poker.

    Why did what work? PokerStars and FullTilt are still operating today. THEY made the choice to pull out of the US Market.

    If PS and FT were extremely ballsy they might NOT have pulled out of the US market, either ignoring the indictment, or attempting to fight it on the grounds poker is a skill game. Instead of this they capitulated and decided they would be happy just trucking along sans their USA players, for now.
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  14. 05-24-11 03:26 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVBOUND View Post
    Let me ask you something, if this isnt going to do anything then why would the GOVERNMENT do this and why did it work for poker and not sports betting.
    B/c the poker thing fell in their lap (read up on it) and they had a little inside info to do what they already did. They're not going to put huge manpower into this, there isn't a public outcry for it. And they wont' regulate sportsbetting online in the next 5-10 years, unlike teh pokerz
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  15. 05-24-11 03:27 PM #15
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    Interesting info.. thanks for sharing
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  16. 05-24-11 03:27 PM #16
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    If Stars didn't pull out I promise you players never would have got paid. I am not saying offshore is done. Just for Americans.
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  17. 05-24-11 03:29 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVBOUND View Post
    Let me ask you something, if this isnt going to do anything then why would the GOVERNMENT do this and why did it work for poker and not sports betting.
    Why does the US gov't do all sorts of stupid shit?

    The poker companies believed what they were doing wasn't illegal and that they were different from sports. The US gov't has been after cris/bookmaker in one way or another for decades, they've had past owners jailed, etc, they keep going. They know they aren't operating a legit US business, they aren't visiting the US ever.
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  18. 05-24-11 03:29 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVBOUND View Post
    Let me ask you something, if this isnt going to do anything then why would the GOVERNMENT do this and why did it work for poker and not sports betting.
    My guess is because they wanted to seize the $$ to keep paying their salaries. Its a money grab.

    back to your OP I would expect Tony to say something like that. Don't be reassured in any way by that. Be very careful about what you send offshore now and your exposure is high I would start withdrawing asap. Wait a while and see how this plays out. Maybe it is not a big deal but its too soon to tell. If they put an end to money transfer services i don't see how you can deposit and withdraw anymore
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  19. 05-24-11 03:31 PM #19
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    lemart you deserve a 1000$ freeplay from 5diems after that investigation into the dark world of gambling.
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  20. 05-24-11 03:48 PM #20
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    good info...thanks for sharing
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  21. 05-24-11 03:50 PM #21
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    yeah everything will be just fine with tony until you beat him for a good amount
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  22. 05-24-11 03:54 PM #22
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    of course tony was nice... he wants you all to deposit funds. everyone knows hes a dousche
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  23. 05-24-11 03:55 PM #23
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    thanks for the effort
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  24. 05-24-11 04:00 PM #24
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    Bullshit

    I would get your money out
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  25. 05-24-11 04:01 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by stogies View Post
    may be tony was being nice to taylor cause he knew about his grandma dying.

    between his stroke and poor granny
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  26. 05-24-11 04:07 PM #26
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    here's an old convo i had with a VIP manager at BetEd, on april 15 2011:

    VIP Manager, shoot me straight. Is beted in any trouble? is beted poker still running? this shit is crazy with full tilt/stars! i only had 450 in there, and ironically i requested a withdrawal of that a day before the shit went down!

    -me

    hey,

    Here's the deal - for at least today we're going to not have poker. Best to lay low in situations like these. We dont' want all the "homeless" players from those sites to suddenly try to join us. Seems strange to not want business I know, but for now we want to be overly-cautious.

    Sorry for the inconvenience though. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

    Regards,

    VIP Manager - betED


    how about sportsbook operations? I know you guys don't want to cause panic, but do yo usee any effect on the horizon?

    -me


    A friend in the industry sent me this:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/boy-g...#ixzz1JcscqmGj

    Check it out. Seems those poker sites were trying to screw the government out of some huge bankroll. I'm sure the television ads didn't help either.

    VIP Manager - betED.com
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  27. 05-24-11 04:20 PM #27
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    Thanks for the heads up
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  28. 05-24-11 04:22 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemart5 View Post
    Tony is actually very nice to people who are down at his book.
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  29. 05-24-11 04:36 PM #29
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    tony actually came off as a cool guy on this convo...lets wait until the next one
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  30. 05-24-11 05:00 PM #30
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    Why dont you guys just call these guys on the phone? What is the deal with chatting online with them?
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  31. 05-24-11 05:03 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    of course tony was nice... he wants you all to deposit funds. everyone knows hes a dousche
    His job is on the line. You really think he's going to tell you, "I am really nervous, our site is going to be shut down." ?
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  32. 05-24-11 05:11 PM #32
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    Thank you for sharing..
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  33. 05-24-11 05:19 PM #33
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    good job with the chat log with Tony from 5 dimes....
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  34. 05-24-11 05:25 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by playersonly69 View Post
    Why dont you guys just call these guys on the phone? What is the deal with chatting online with them?
    tony doesn't take phone calls
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  35. 05-24-11 05:30 PM #35
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    Bernie Madoff told potential investors his business was on sound footing as well.....
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