[No coincidences]

It's all money based NC.....deprive the market of gaming sites. Pop up legalized ones in 2 years and watch the community flood into them. Make the casino pay some outrageous tax for offering the service and tax the winners.....win win for the govt.

Yep. Fvcking joke. We spend/print money into oblivion, then come up with this. Unreal.

[sweetjones55]

For anyone that doesn't know what I am talking about, go check out bookmaker.

[Tunes]

I can log into Bookmaker.com. I cannot log in to bmaker.ag.

What could that be about?

[Santo]

Bodog:

The Morris Mohawk Gaming Group (MMGG and at MorrisMohawk.ca), with a gaming license in Kahnawake, Canada, have licensed the Bodog.eu domain from the global brand owner BodogBrand.com as part of MMGG’s international expansion program. MMGG made the decision in December 2010 to expand internationally and has already started work on one new country. Its current domain license for Bodog.com will be allowed to expire once the transition is complete. MMGG’s expansion will not impede or prejudice those markets in which the other Brand Licensees currently operate and retain exclusivity over.

Alwyn Morris, CEO of MMGG stated: “The experience of history tells us not to stand still and we feel this more global domain will appeal more directly to the new markets we plan to enter. We did the deal with BodogBrand.com for the .eu domain last year but are ready to cut over globally now. Like many in the gaming world we will be looking at Asia very closely and there are many markets that Bodog88.com, the brand’s Asian facing licensee, is not interested in. We also have our eyes on some exciting market opportunities in Latin America.”

Starting this week, everyone in every country that is able to access Bodog.com will be using Bodog.eu.

If you believe that reasoning, I've got a river on the moon to sell you.

[nyplayer33]

I think all these shutodwns are related to omnline pokers

[Garbage Time Fan]

what gives "Homeland Security" authorization to seize a domain that is used internationally? ICANN is the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. If any entity has the authority to seize a domain it is ICANN.

"Homeland Security" has no authorization over internet domains that is recognized by probablly 99% of people outside of the US.

what's next? How many more domains does "Homeland Security" plan to seize? Do they intend to seize domains for websites that are critical to the US government? If someone operates a website with the URL Obamasucks.com, will Homeland Security shut it down?

this is a power grab that should sicken everyone here.

[jjgold]

what about Lou?

and Shari?

and Bobby?

what about their paychecks?

They do not have any clue..maybe Lou but the other too are not experienced in offshore sportsbooks

[Monte]

All that US players have left now is the Greek, if they go for Spiro it's over.
Oh and don't be fooled, your money is not A+ safe anymore at Bookmaker. Thou SBR won't change the rating, ofc.

[nyplayer33]

i'm wondering if they can seize domain if ilegal acticty occured in usa...

[AimingHigh]

They setup a sting operation where they setup a payment processing company, and got BetEd and CRIS to process payments through them. That is how they were able to bust those companies, but not others.

Interesting. Any link to this part of the story?

[Ninersnut]

what gives "Homeland Security" authorization to seize a domain that is used internationally? ICANN is the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. If any entity has the authority to seize a domain it is ICANN. "Homeland Security" has no authorization over internet domains that is recognized by probablly 99% of people outside of the US. what's next? How many more domains does "Homeland Security" plan to seize? Do they intend to seize domains for websites that are critical to the US government? If someone operates a website with the URL Obamasucks.com, will Homeland Security shut it down? this is a power grab that should sicken everyone here.

Money laundering ring a bell? They have every right to seize it.

[2Bdown]

This is absolutely crazy! I'm moving out of country!

or you could move to Nevada

[BIGDAY]

I am not worried

They are doing updates tonight on server maybe switching domain names

C'mon JJ!!! We deserve the truth!!!
5dimes is down for more than 24 hours...

Bookmaker is updated/changing doman...

Something is up....

[Monte]

A fool could have forseen this, don't feel too special.
And yes ofc you are right, 5Dimes is as good as dead. Combined with these Casino horror stories, and Tony being a dick, anyone who keeps playing at this shit place is crazy.

[BrianLaverty]

You guys realize all those sites listed were affiliated with True Poker, right? They are going after all the poker sites.....

[d2bets]

You should specify that they apparently seized some domains, not the actual "offshore books".

[mighty maron]

what gives "Homeland Security" authorization to seize a domain that is used internationally? ICANN is the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. If any entity has the authority to seize a domain it is ICANN.

"Homeland Security" has no authorization over internet domains that is recognized by probablly 99% of people outside of the US.

what's next? How many more domains does "Homeland Security" plan to seize? Do they intend to seize domains for websites that are critical to the US government? If someone operates a website with the URL Obamasucks.com, will Homeland Security shut it down?

this is a power grab that should sicken everyone here.

Verisign has influence over the.com domain names. Verisign is part of Symantec which is listed on the NasDAQ. Thus the US govt can swoop in......

All books that deal with US customers should transfer to domain names that are under less influence from us govt like the .ag

[will2survive]

this is slightly alarming

[gregm]

or you could move to Nevada

Its sort of like online players trying to make the transition from online poker to live poker, there are so many ways to make money betting sports online, line shopping, have tons of outs, live betting,etc. Sportsbooks in most casinos are really only there because the casinos have to have them there, usually the deadest part of most casinos. I love gambling live but playing craps, blackjack,etc is much better than sitting in some half deserted sportsbook in the casino.

Going back to playing at the station, parlay cards,locals may be where I am headed, sad.

[dinaro7]

grandmasterbaiter b you r a jack888

[Smoke]

SBR says "business as usual"

Wonder why

Imagine if we all cashed out from all our books, not good for sbr

The fact is this isn't the end. More books due to get seized. Game over. Goin back to a local

[jgilmartin]

Interesting. Any link to this part of the story?

This is the actual affidavit
http://www.scribd.com/doc/56092260/L...-SSW-Affidavit

[ttwarrior1]

the shows im listening to online says nothing to do with poker when it comes to dsi,, bookmaker, etc, they got domain seized because of sports gambling and payments

[mighty maron]

SBR says "don't panic"

Wonder why

Imagine if we all cashed out from all our books, not good for sbr

The fact is this isn't the end. More books due to get seized. Game over. Goin back to a local

You could not all cash out at the same time. The only reason Pokerstars got their usa customers 100Million fast is because the Isle of Man requires that players funds are seperated from operational costs. Full Tilt poker who is licensced elsewhere does not keep players funds seperate and are dragging their feet paying people off.

I can not fanthom that unless the law where the book is says that players funds are seperate from operational cost that they would have all the funds to handle the mass cashout.

I dont know this for certain though

[YorkHunt]

I have a good contact in the VIP section, he said the only thing seized was the domain names. He said by reports the banks that were seized were just for cards. They work with tons of banks. Outgoing payments are still good! Incoming deposits are still honored! No delay in payments.

Scum bags set up a fake processor and nailed them....Doesnt our govt. have a deficit to worry about??

[Garbage Time Fan]

Verisign has influence over the.com domain names. Verisign is part of Symantec which is listed on the NasDAQ. Thus the US govt can swoop in..

Hell no. Verisign is a registrar. the owner of the domain is free to move the domain to another registrar.

what Homeland Security is doing is in violation of ICANN's authority.

[mighty maron]

the shows im listening to online says nothing to do with poker when it comes to dsi,, bookmaker, etc, they got domain seized because of sports gambling and payments

http://pokerscout.com/UntrackedSiteD...x?site=Yatahay

Yatahay poker network was hit...this had doylesroom, truepoker, betcris, and bookmaker.

The interesting thing is that 5dimes is also part of this network....

[mighty maron]

Hell no. Verisign is a registrar. the owner of the domain is free to move the domain to another registrar.

what Homeland Security is doing is in violation of ICANN's authority.

the registrar is in the US.....US did seize it...gg

[trixtrix]

Hey Mickey - you've been around all night
And that's a little long.
You think you've got the right but I think you've got it wrong.
Why can't we say goodnight? So you can take me home
Mickey.
'cause when you say you will
it always means you won't.
You're givin' me the chills

Baby
please baby
don't
ev'ry night you still
Leave me alone
Mickey.

Oh Mickey
what a pity you don't understand.
You take me by the heart when you take me by the hand.
Oh Mickey
you're so pretty
can't you understand.
It's guys like you
Mickey
ooh what you do
Mickey

Do
Mickey
don't break my heart
Mickey.
Hey
Mickey - now when you take me by the who's
Ever gonna know
and ev'ry time you move
You let a little more show.

There's something you can lose - so don't say no
Mickey.
So come on and give it to me anyway you can

Anyway you want to do it
I'll take it like a man.
But please
baby
please don't leave me in this jam
Mickey.
Oh Mickey
what a pity you don't understand. . . .
Oh Mickey
what a pity you don't understand. . . .
Oh Mickey
what a pity you don't understand. .

[Grandmaster B]

grandmasterbaiter b you r a jack888

stfu shill

[xbalto]

DNS records take time to propagate so the old site will work for some people for a while.

here is the WHOIS record:

Domain Name: BOOKMAKER.COM
Registrar: GANDI SAS
Whois Server: whois.gandi.net
Referral URL: http://www.gandi.net
Name Server: NS1.SEIZEDSERVERS.COM
Name Server: NS2.SEIZEDSERVERS.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: serverDeleteProhibited
Status: serverTransferProhibited
Status: serverUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 23-may-2011
Creation Date: 03-nov-1997
Expiration Date: 02-nov-2018

looks like the domain got seized

[Flight]

www.bookmaker.com is fine

bookmaker.com is not

????

sounds like just a domain issue

[Flight]

yah, DNS is probably still propagating .....

[Garbage Time Fan]

the registrar is in the US.....US did seize it...gg

...and the authority to seize domains from US registrars comes from what international treaty?

ICANN is the authority over those names. No matter how many Homeland Security shills are posting on this thread, that's the simple truth.

[justonetime]

www.bookmaker.com now showing the seized page.