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    Republican party wants to criminalize online gambling

    Republican party wants to criminalize online gambling

    For your information, the Republican party wants to criminalize online gambling. This is directly from the Republican Party Platform. It's right here:

    Internet Gambling

    Millions of Americans suffer from problem or pathological gambling that can destroy families. We support the law prohibiting gambling over the Internet.

    http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/Crime.htm

    For all of our non-US members, this is a pivotal election. This is about electing one of the most powerful people on Earth. If you know of any US ex-pats - make sure they are voting come November.


    Taken from Casinomeister’s email October 16, 2008

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    Obama

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    LOL @ online gambling sandwiched between child porn and street gangs.

    what is wrong with Americans?

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    McCain once called the UFC a human cockfight

    If he gets elected, which he won't, you can kiss online gambling and MMA fights goodbye.

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    if it goes in america, conservative canadian government's gonna get rid of it here too.

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    no they won't.

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    But ok for Repulicans to lie and F**k the american public

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    Even if the Democrats get control of the White House, Senate and House, it won't affect online gambling. It'll still be illegal forever.

    Democrats voted for the House bill and the Senate bill that passed, including Speaker Pelosi.

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    isn't online gambling already against the law?

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    If Hussein Obama wins we won't have to worry about it. We won't have any extra money because he'll be 'spreading the wealth around'! More like spreading OUR wealth around. The American dream is not to become a socialist country, it's to succeed without limit. According to Obama and Biden I make too much money and I need to be "patriotic" and pay more taxes. That is nuts! Good ole' Biden made more that $3 MILLION dollars over the past 3 years and gave a staggering $3,000 dollars to charity...that's patriotic...not. I make under $50K and yes my taxes get increased under Obama's plan. Say what you want, but it's true. When the Bush tax cuts expire my taxes increase by $5K. Good idea in the most difficult economy of our time, raise taxes...rediculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisp View Post
    isn't online gambling already against the law?
    Its illegal to take a bet, but not to place a bet. The whole thing is silly, online gambling isn't going anywhere....its too big.

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    its already socialist
    who do you think pays for the wars and bailouts

    at least we should get some healthcare out of it
    whats so wrong with socialism. ever been to europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    If Hussein Obama wins we won't have to worry about it. We won't have any extra money because he'll be 'spreading the wealth around'! More like spreading OUR wealth around. The American dream is not to become a socialist country, it's to succeed without limit. According to Obama and Biden I make too much money and I need to be "patriotic" and pay more taxes. That is nuts! Good ole' Biden made more that $3 MILLION dollars over the past 3 years and gave a staggering $3,000 dollars to charity...that's patriotic...not. I make under $50K and yes my taxes get increased under Obama's plan. Say what you want, but it's true. When the Bush tax cuts expire my taxes increase by $5K. Good idea in the most difficult economy of our time, raise taxes...rediculous!
    umm.. no.. your taxes won't increase. Obama says he will continue the Bush tax cuts for all but the top two tax brackets, which you aren't even close to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanXL977 View Post
    its already socialist
    who do you think pays for the wars and bailouts

    at least we should get some healthcare out of it
    whats so wrong with socialism. ever been to europe?
    Right on brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    If Hussein Obama wins we won't have to worry about it. We won't have any extra money because he'll be 'spreading the wealth around'! More like spreading OUR wealth around. The American dream is not to become a socialist country, it's to succeed without limit. According to Obama and Biden I make too much money and I need to be "patriotic" and pay more taxes. That is nuts! Good ole' Biden made more that $3 MILLION dollars over the past 3 years and gave a staggering $3,000 dollars to charity...that's patriotic...not. I make under $50K and yes my taxes get increased under Obama's plan. Say what you want, but it's true. When the Bush tax cuts expire my taxes increase by $5K. Good idea in the most difficult economy of our time, raise taxes...rediculous!
    the American dream is to succeed without limit? No, you have to have checks and balances in a system, but i'm tired of hearing about people who make over 250K complaining they will have to pay 2-3 % more.
    And there is No Way if you make less than 50k your taxes are going up more than 5k, that's 10% on top of whatever you're already paying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    If Hussein Obama wins we won't have to worry about it. We won't have any extra money because he'll be 'spreading the wealth around'! More like spreading OUR wealth around. The American dream is not to become a socialist country, it's to succeed without limit. According to Obama and Biden I make too much money and I need to be "patriotic" and pay more taxes. That is nuts! Good ole' Biden made more that $3 MILLION dollars over the past 3 years and gave a staggering $3,000 dollars to charity...that's patriotic...not. I make under $50K and yes my taxes get increased under Obama's plan. Say what you want, but it's true. When the Bush tax cuts expire my taxes increase by $5K. Good idea in the most difficult economy of our time, raise taxes...rediculous!
    The Triumph Of Hope Over Self-Interest (New York Times, January 12, 2003 -- requires free account)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanXL977 View Post
    its already socialist
    who do you think pays for the wars and bailouts

    at least we should get some healthcare out of it
    whats so wrong with socialism. ever been to europe?
    I live in Canada and I still use and pay for my USA Blue Cross because socialized medicine SUCKS! Want a family doctor? It's an 8 year minimum on the waiting list! Need heart bypass surgery? You go on a waiting list too. Get a cold, the flu, etc...go to the emergency room, sit there for 8+ hours and then see a 'doctor' for about 3 minutes. The Canadian system is horrible. You and Michael Moorer should use it.

    PS It's not 'free' here either...I pay HUGE taxes as well as a $600/year premium for OHIP, which I NEVER use!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister Cat View Post
    umm.. no.. your taxes won't increase. Obama says he will continue the Bush tax cuts for all but the top two tax brackets, which you aren't even close to.
    That's what Slick Willy said too, but reality is these liberals need to raise taxes to 'spread the wealth around' and pay for their grand ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    If Hussein Obama wins we won't have to worry about it. We won't have any extra money because he'll be 'spreading the wealth around'! More like spreading OUR wealth around. The American dream is not to become a socialist country, it's to succeed without limit. According to Obama and Biden I make too much money and I need to be "patriotic" and pay more taxes. That is nuts! Good ole' Biden made more that $3 MILLION dollars over the past 3 years and gave a staggering $3,000 dollars to charity...that's patriotic...not. I make under $50K and yes my taxes get increased under Obama's plan. Say what you want, but it's true. When the Bush tax cuts expire my taxes increase by $5K. Good idea in the most difficult economy of our time, raise taxes...rediculous!
    so I take it you have been living the "good life" the last 8 years and like most fundies reality is setting in that the days of bullshit write-offs...manipulating the IRS system and receiving tax breaks for people like you are over with??

    please....correct me if Im wrong



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    you live in Canada?....home of the french??....LMFAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    That's what Slick Willy said too, but reality is these liberals need to raise taxes to 'spread the wealth around' and pay for their grand ideas.
    So you have no basis for your belief that your taxes will increase (which seems an odd thing to worry about in the first place if you don't live in the US) other than your distrust of Democrats.

    People at your income level are the beneficiaries of income redistribution through progressive tax rates and government spending, so if you are as selfish as you claim, you should vote Democrat.

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    potsie, . if you live in Canada how is Obama's tax plan affecting you again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganchrow View Post
    The Triumph Of Hope Over Self-Interest (New York Times, January 12, 2003 -- requires free account)
    Very interesting read Ganch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    I live in Canada and I still use and pay for my USA Blue Cross because socialized medicine SUCKS! Want a family doctor? It's an 8 year minimum on the waiting list! Need heart bypass surgery? You go on a waiting list too. Get a cold, the flu, etc...go to the emergency room, sit there for 8+ hours and then see a 'doctor' for about 3 minutes. The Canadian system is horrible. You and Michael Moorer should use it.

    PS It's not 'free' here either...I pay HUGE taxes as well as a $600/year premium for OHIP, which I NEVER use!
    you have Blue Cross? do you use it in Canada or are you close to the border and travel over here to the states?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganchrow View Post
    The Triumph Of Hope Over Self-Interest (New York Times, January 12, 2003 -- requires free account)
    nice read, even though a little old, still relevant. Didn't need no free account though, unless there was more than the 2 pages i read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvillekid View Post
    you have Blue Cross? do you use it in Canada or are you close to the border and travel over here to the states?
    he is crying about american politics but scamming off the american system

    the 8 years of scamming is just about over people

    fundies are in a panic as we speak

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvillekid View Post
    potsie, . if you live in Canada how is Obama's tax plan affecting you again?
    I am AMERICAN. The IRS taxes American citizens no matter where they happen to live...worldwide. I am employed in the US as I live on the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger View Post
    he is crying about american politics but scamming off the american system

    the 8 years of scamming is just about over people

    fundies are in a panic as we speak
    Yeah, I'm living the " good life" raising a family of 5 on $40K/year waiting for Barrack Hussein Obama to raise my taxes. I pay my USA taxes SIR! Why should those who pay ZERO tax get a tax rebate while those that produce get hosed with the bill? Raising taxes on anyone in any class in a time of economic turmoil is ludicrous! Last one to do it was Hoover, result...depression. Watch Cinderella man and dream about your fried bologna. Whatever government touches turns to shit, plain and simple. Please explain how I am "SCAMMING THE SYSTEM"...you don't even know me sir. To make that assumption shows how terribly ignorant you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvillekid View Post
    you have Blue Cross? do you use it in Canada or are you close to the border and travel over here to the states?
    I work and travel to the USA. It's about a 5 minute drive. The American system, while not perfect, is far superior to the Canadian. Obviously, if it were comparable in any way I would use it as I am already paying for it, and I would get a bonus of $3,000 for declining Blue Cross through my employer, not to mention I would not have to pay the $50 premium per pay period. Keep in mind Canada only has 30 million residents, try implementing this system on a scale of 350 million...impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    Yeah, I'm living the " good life" raising a family of 5 on $40K/year waiting for Barrack Hussein Obama to raise my taxes. I pay my USA taxes SIR! Why should those who pay ZERO tax get a tax rebate while those that produce get hosed with the bill? Raising taxes on anyone in any class in a time of economic turmoil is ludicrous! Last one to do it was Hoover, result...depression. Watch Cinderella man and dream about your fried bologna. Whatever government touches turns to shit, plain and simple. Please explain how I am "SCAMMING THE SYSTEM"...you don't even know me sir. To make that assumption shows how terribly ignorant you are.
    you dont make $250,000k a year?

    and you live in Canada???

    what is your problem with Obama again???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger View Post
    you dont make $250,000k a year?

    and you live in Canada???

    what is your problem with Obama again???????
    Why not throw a few more icons up there?

    I am AMERICAN...born in the USA...paying taxes to the USA...working in the USA...read.

    My only problem with Obama is that he is a tax and spend liberal socialist, totally against the free market society, and so ignorant and condescending...oh and racist too.

    Just today he stated...when I leave the senate I want an African American to be appointed to my seat. Nobody batted and eyelash. What if McCain came out and said "If I am elected president I want a White Guy to be appointed to my seat" He would be tarred and feathered. Or maybe if McCain attended an anti-American racist church as Obama did for 20 years. If McCain attended a KKK White Supremest church, he would have been kicked out of Washington before he even started. Why is there a double standard here? Why doesn't this matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    My only problem with Obama is that he is a tax and spend liberal socialist, totally against the free market society, and so ignorant and condescending...oh and racist too.
    8 years ago Bush was running on a campaign that they will restore moral and decency to the office and strengthen the military who they claimed moral was down by the Bill Clinton.

    Right now the military is dying and fighting an unjust war with no exit strategy thanks to a clueless commander in chief. Moral and decency went to hell, with this current administration abridgment on people civil rights by doing illegal wiretaps and not allowing legal representation for innocent captive's in Guantanamo bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post

    Just today he stated...when I leave the senate I want an African American to be appointed to my seat. Nobody batted and eyelash.
    today is Oct 17th, where is the transcript from said statement or link to newspaper, video, audio from this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    Yeah, I'm living the " good life" raising a family of 5 on $40K/year waiting for Barrack Hussein Obama to raise my taxes. I pay my USA taxes SIR! Why should those who pay ZERO tax get a tax rebate while those that produce get hosed with the bill? Raising taxes on anyone in any class in a time of economic turmoil is ludicrous! Last one to do it was Hoover, result...depression. Watch Cinderella man and dream about your fried bologna. Whatever government touches turns to shit, plain and simple. Please explain how I am "SCAMMING THE SYSTEM"...you don't even know me sir. To make that assumption shows how terribly ignorant you are.
    Obama won't raise your taxes unless you make 250k or are an unlicensed plumber. I read his plan...you're safe!

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    McCoot isn't racist?

    I guess voting against Martin Luther King holiday was no biggie.

    Or calling Asians by a derogatory term "gook" is also no biggie.

    Or his tasteless jokes about how Muslims only buy 1-way plane tickets was just McRacist being McRacist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potsie View Post
    I am AMERICAN. The IRS taxes American citizens no matter where they happen to live...worldwide. I am employed in the US as I live on the border.
    you don't get taxed as an American if you live outside the states and your money earned is not from here(the US).
    The IRS can not tax me anywhere i live, unless somehow i'm still making money from the states somehow.

    now i'm not sure about your situation cause you spend so much time in the US and technically work in the US, but i'm pretty sure you would only be taxed under the country of residence. you said you have to pay American taxes and Canadian taxes? That makes no sense. Plus you said you have to pay for OHIP even though you don't use it, yet you have Blue Cross through your employer. OHIP is for people who live in the Ontario province of Canada, it is open to only Canadian citizens and you have to claim Ontario as your main residence. Why would you be forced to pay into a system that you don't use and are not a Canadian citizen and you pay taxes to America? Do you claim the US or Canada as your main residence throughout the year?

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