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    Who is a bigger bust: Ryan Leaf or Demarcus Russell?

    At least Leaf won his first three games.....

    Russell is RANCID.... 20 QB rating today.

    Al Davis should've listened to Lane Kiffin and not drafted this monumental BUST. He can't even complete short 5-10 yard passes without getting them picked or go 5 feet over guys heads.

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    Both are pitiful

    Why anyone drafts black QB's is behond belief, they cannot be good nfl qb's

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    true

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    i have a list aobut 100 men long of shitty white qbs taken in the first round

    leaf aint even close to the top
    david carr
    dilfer
    shuler
    drunkenmiller
    grossman

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    Gotta be Ryan Leaf

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanXL977 View Post
    i have a list aobut 100 men long of shitty white qbs taken in the first round

    leaf aint even close to the top
    david carr
    dilfer
    shuler
    drunkenmiller
    grossman
    Alex Smith (1st pick)

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    Biggest Bust of All?

    Al Davis

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    Joey Harrington

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    I agree, quarterbacks shouldnt be black, they arent smart enough.

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    13 of 35 (37.1%), 159 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 1 FUMBLE.... 40.1 QB rating

    This is his 2nd full season in the league and he's actually getting worse. I'd rather have Tavaris Jackson than him.

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    Too early to tell about Russell...

    He missed training camp with his holdout his rookie year. So, that year was basically wasted.

    He's been (and continues to be) in a totally disfunctional situation in Oakland.

    So, giving him the benefit of the doubt, I'll say the jury is still out...but it is fair to say he isn't moving in the right direction up to this point...

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    On ESPN Gameday this morning,Cris Carter called Jamarcus Russel the best QB the Raiders have ever had........... I could name 10 that are better then this bust. I think CC must be back on the Yae- Yo!

    1. Ken Stabler
    2. Rich Gannon
    3. Jim Plunkett
    4. Marc Wilson
    5. Jim Otto
    6. Jeff Hostetler
    7.Daryle Lamonica
    8. Jay Shcroeder
    9. Steve Buerlein
    10.Vince Evans
    Feel free to keep adding names that were better then Jamarcus Russel.

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    no o-line
    no leadership
    no plan
    no front office

    you cant be good with all that against you
    give him some time, color doesnt have shit to do with it

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    Are you referring to Demarcus Beasley and Jamarcus Russel's love child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady2Moss View Post
    I agree, quarterbacks shouldnt be black, they arent smart enough.
    Mad props for telling it like it is. I've long held that opinion but am always reticent to voice it because of being labelled a racist. I have nothing against black people, but like you, I feel they have zero business being NFL QBs, even in a backup role. I think Donovan McNabb is the cream of that crop, and even I have to admit that the QB play for the Eagles was superior when Jeff Garcia was starting.

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    Leaf although Russell could be a big bust too.

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    Rusty Hilger
    Todd Marinovich
    Rick Mirer
    Kerry Collins
    Marc Wilson
    Jeff George

    All better Raider QBs than Dumbmarcus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poetwarrior41 View Post
    On ESPN Gameday this morning,Cris Carter called Jamarcus Russel the best QB the Raiders have ever had........... I could name 10 that are better then this bust. I think CC must be back on the Yae- Yo!

    1. Ken Stabler
    2. Rich Gannon
    3. Jim Plunkett
    4. Marc Wilson
    5. Jim Otto
    6. Jeff Hostetler
    7.Daryle Lamonica
    8. Jay Shcroeder
    9. Steve Buerlein
    10.Vince Evans
    Feel free to keep adding names that were better then Jamarcus Russel.
    OK Russell is bad but Otto was a Center

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    I know what you mean, I hate to say that black guys cant play QB, but its the truth... All the best QB's ever are white, coincidence? maybe, but I would rather have a white QB than try to prove 80+ years of NFL history wrong...

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    mirer and marinovich? come on. give the guy a lil time. its not an easy job, hell, he went to lsu, he got no education there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady2Moss View Post
    I know what you mean, I hate to say that black guys cant play QB, but its the truth... All the best QB's ever are white, coincidence? maybe, but I would rather have a white QB than try to prove 80+ years of NFL history wrong...
    for a good 30-50 of those years, blacks were probably not allowed to play qb. name me one single black qb prior to 1980

    just name me one

    brown vs board wasnt even till 1954 i think. jesus people

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    I dont think any QB should be drafted in the first round...

    QB's have too good a chance of being a bust and they will rarely ever produce right away, draft players at WR,DE,LB,CB,SS,FS.

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    Ya I just realized that one ryan, but still look at all these modern day black QB's, most of them rely on their athletic ability too much and never really develop pocket passing skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady2Moss View Post
    I dont think any QB should be drafted in the first round...

    QB's have too good a chance of being a bust and they will rarely ever produce right away, draft players at WR,DE,LB,CB,SS,FS.
    agree 100000%

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    There's just not enough Donovan McNabb's around. If McNabb was fortunate enough to have stability a the WR position who's know how better he would had really been.

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    It's JaMarcus Russell.
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    OK, don't like that this has turned in to black vs. white QB.......

    There's been good black QBs such as Doug Williams, Randall Cunningham, Warren Moon, Steve McNair, Daunte Culpepper....

    And I do like Garrard of Jacksonville, who is kicking Denver's ass right now. 24 of 28, 268 yds, 116 QB rating.

    I would hate Russell whether he was white, black or pink. He just SUCKS really bad.
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    exactly dagger
    well put

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    whoa whoa whoa, Daunte Culepper is not a "good" QB, he is a QB that was blessed to play with Randy Moss for his entire career... He cant do shit w/o randy.

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    Already let's just layout the truth here. Blacks suck at QB in the NFL level just like whites suck at Center in Basketball!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daggerkobe View Post
    At least Leaf won his first three games.....

    Russell is RANCID.... 20 QB rating today.

    Al Davis should've listened to Lane Kiffin and not drafted this monumental BUST. He can't even complete short 5-10 yard passes without getting them picked or go 5 feet over guys heads.
    Coming into today's game, Russel had a higher QB rating for the season than did Peyton Manning.

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    Yeah, but would Montana & Young be hall of famers without Jerry Rice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smitch124 View Post
    OK Russell is bad but Otto was a Center
    I meant George Blanda.....got OO and Blanda confused while i was making my list....

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    Quote Originally Posted by daggerkobe View Post
    OK, don't like that this has turned in to black vs. white QB.......

    There's been good black QBs such as Doug Williams, Randall Cunningham, Warren Moon, Steve McNair, Daunte Culpepper....

    And I do like Garrard of Jacksonville, who is kicking Denver's ass right now. 24 of 28, 268 yds, 116 QB rating.

    I would hate Russell whether he was white, black or pink. He just SUCKS really bad.
    Hopefully you forgot him, but how do you forget to even mention Donovan McNabb? He is arguably the greatest black quarterback in the history of the NFL.

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    Pizza boy is comparing Peyton to Russell??????

    He really is a KOOK.

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