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    FadeThePublic
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    10 Dime Play Raiders/Saints

    Saints -6.5

    Should be a blowout! !

    Money in the bank


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    Good Pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZBOIZ View Post
    Good Pick
    thanks


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    heck yeah, cant go against my home team....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante799 View Post
    heck yeah, cant go against my home team....
    Against the raiders, your boys can't go wrong.

    Drew is gonna light it up!!


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    worst receivers in the league vs. the best DB's in the league, this will not be an easy game

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    the Aints defense is similar to a high school football team defense

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    The Raiders cover this game for one simple reason:

    77% of bets are on Saints, yet they have gone from -7.5 to -6.5.

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    my numbers are -7.. right now.. i just checked.. the money (spread?) is on oakland.. i'll take the saints here..

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    No, the money is on the Saints.

    Code:
    Time	Team                   	# Bets	Spread	ML	Open-CRIS	Pinnacle  	CRIS
    12-Oct	203*Oakland Raiders	47562	27%	33%	47.5 -110	47.5 -105	47.5 -110
    1:00P	204*New Orleans Saints		73%	67%	7.5-110   	-7+106    	-6.5-110

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    No, the money is on the Saints.

    Code:
    Time	Team                   	# Bets	Spread	ML	Open-CRIS	Pinnacle  	CRIS
    12-Oct	203*Oakland Raiders	47562	27%	33%	47.5 -110	47.5 -105	47.5 -110
    1:00P	204*New Orleans Saints		73%	67%	7.5-110   	-7+106    	-6.5-110
    where do you get this information from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    The Raiders cover this game for one simple reason:

    77% of bets are on Saints, yet they have gone from -7.5 to -6.5.
    I was thinking the same. He certainly is not living up to his name

    I am on the Raiders btw.

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    You can't trust those consensus percentages.


    Linesmover has the percentage 54% on the Raiders.
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    Sports Insights is easily the most reliable.

    Reverse line movements lead to big profits

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Sports Insights is easily the most reliable.

    Reverse line movements lead to big profits

    I wouldn't say that. I've been following their lines this week against two other lines services and their lines are all over the place.
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    I was referring to their betting percentages

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I was referring to their betting percentages

    I know you were, but if they can't the lines right, how do you expect them to get the percentages right?

    There's obviously a reason why their cost is half the price of other services.
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    Whats you're dime amount?

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    Yahoo! News tab on my Fantasy Football Quarterback Drew Brees:

    Tue, Oct 7 Brees was 26-for-45 for 330 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions in the Saints' 30-27 loss to Minnesota on Monday night.

    Advice: Brees leads the NFL with 133 completions and 1,673 passing yards, and remains an elite fantasy quarterback. That hasn't been good enough for the Saints, however, who are 2-3. Brees hopes to help New Orleans get back to .500 next Sunday when the Saints host the Raiders. He's won his last five starts against Oakland with 10 touchdowns and no interceptions in those games.

    And my opinion: I disagree that Oakland has the best D'Backs in the league. They are middle of the pack right now for passing defense (Y/pg) and that includes a good performance by Denver's passing game, and a game against Kansas City, who is ranked 29th in offense this season. I'd say they probably belong right where they are for the defensive rankings. Also, I understand that the Saints defense has struggled, but the way they shut down Peterson and the Vikings run game last week was definitely a spark. The Raiders offense is ranked 3rd in rushing, and 29th in passing. If the Saints run defense shows up today like it did last week, the Raiders better hope for 2 or 3 special teams/defensive touchdowns. And we are all well aware of the Saints ability to score at any time, whether its Brees throwing a long pass to one of his few healthy receivers, or Bush returning a punt at an unexpected time. The Saints are ranked 1st in passing and 29th in rushing. But the Saints have had to play against Tampa(14), Washington(9), and Minnesota(3), who are ranked in rush defense as noted. And the Saints just aren't running the ball when they know they can throw any time. That is why the Saints Rushing Offense is close to last in the league, yet they are ranked 4th overall offensively. Not saying bet the house on New Orleans, but how can you take Oakland on the road when the Saints have a must-win game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    I know you were, but if they can't the lines right, how do you expect them to get the percentages right?

    There's obviously a reason why their cost is half the price of other services.
    And yet following reverse moves based solely on their data has been a gold mine. That's all that matters.

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    I guess my point is I could live with an off line or two as long as they win in the big picture. Personally, I usually have SI percentages and sbrodds up simultaneously, so I can;t really speak for if SI's lines are off that often.

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    LT you are right about the profit. THat is the only way thay I bet. I use those numbers on a regular bases follow line moves and then bet. I have had plenty of profits just the last 2 yrs of doing this. I don't handicap any game at all. You can go to covers and look at the leaderboard on NCAA and I am in the top 10 of all the players and think in the top 100 overall.Very profitable and if you want to make money then stick to this along with you capping skills.

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    i have oak+8

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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeThePublic View Post
    Saints -6.5

    Should be a blowout! !

    Money in the bank


    you're not partial to the saints are you?

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    With a hurt Mcfadden and Jamarcus is not on the same page with the recievers I dont see the Raiders covering or even staying close. They did Fire Kiffen and had a bye week so they had time to prepare and get a little bit more healthy but not that healthy.

    Brees will light up the Raiders DB with no pass rush, Raiders best corners back is playing with a broken arm and has a cast on.Another fustrating week for Oakland

    Saints 27 Raiders 13

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    BTW Raiders big off season moves have failed bad , E Wilson Safety from the giants has really sucked, D Hall CB from the Falcons has been a bust and has been torched all year even bye a rookie WR from Denver when B Marshall was out. Javon Walker WR has not even caught a pass and might finally play there was rumors of retirement and is coming off a knee surgery and was jumped in Las vegas a few months ago. Ronald Curry the last years leading WR has a only a few catches this year. You add Coaching and Al Davis they might go worse than 4 -12 this year even though they have stayed close in all games besides denver but find some how to lose there games.

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    I'm not touching this game for one reason, you have no idea what the Raiders are going to do with a different coach. Kiffen was either a horrible coach or was just coaching to get fired and I think it's the latter.


    Either way, it's major addition by subtraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    The Raiders cover this game for one simple reason:

    77% of bets are on Saints, yet they have gone from -7.5 to -6.5.
    The amount of bets coming in on one side and the line movement have nothing to do with how the players on the field perform and who wins the game.

    You can't just go by 77% are on the saints but the line went the opposite way and expect to win.
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    Raiders coming off a bye while Saints off a short week.

    Russell's homecoming and had some of his great games at the Superdome.

    Colston out also.

    As long as they aren't stupid enough to kick to Reggie Bush.

    Wouldn't shock me if Raiders won outright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeThePublic View Post
    The amount of bets coming in on one side and the line movement have nothing to do with how the players on the field perform and who wins the game.

    You can't just go by 77% are on the saints but the line went the opposite way and expect to win.
    YES you can, it is the easiest way to make money without doing any handicapping. Not that I do that, but for someone that doesn't have the time to handicap, this works in every sport.

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    Boy was I off by a billion mile.

    Can't believe I put money on these bums that I predicted would win 3 games while everyone else said 9.

    Russell & McFadden proving what busts they are.

    Damn I need my head examined.

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    LT i often use Bet Tracker too, but i have to disagree that it always shows where the sharp money goes to.
    If it was that simple, we all would be rich.

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    26 QB rating for Russell compared to 136 for Brees.

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    and just fumbled to go along with his INT.

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    took a live bet lol on N.O. -20.

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