Last time we've seen a freshman like Johnny Manziel in college football?

**tto827** · 11-10-12, 06:54 PM

Adrian Peterson was pretty dominant. But ever since that LT game, I've known Manziel was the real deal and tried to watch every possible snap of his.

**Grits n' Gravy** · 11-10-12, 06:54 PM

Frosh (rs) QB from Oregon who is better than the A&M kid.

**No coincidences** · 11-10-12, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

Frosh (rs) QB from Oregon who is better than the A&M kid.

He's pretty damn good too. Look at the weapons around him, though.

**paco** · 11-10-12, 06:58 PM

Ryan leaf

**ebbearsfb1** · 11-10-12, 07:01 PM

Jesus Jr. Aka Timothy Tebow? a.p. maybe Vick not sure if that was his freshman year in 99... sure there is more but can't think of it off hand

**tto827** · 11-10-12, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by ebbearsfb1

Jesus Jr. Aka Timothy Tebow? a.p. maybe Vick not sure if that was his freshman year in 99... sure there is more but can't think of it off hand

Not sure you realize how good he is, set the SEC record for yards in like his third game, and THEN BEAT IT like two games later.

**ebbearsfb1** · 11-10-12, 07:08 PM

Never said he wasn't good.. coin asked last time we saw a player like this though... not big into records though as the game has changed so much even in the last ten years.. but yes the kid is a baller

**No coincidences** · 11-10-12, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by ebbearsfb1

Never said he wasn't good.. coin asked last time we saw a player like this though... not big into records though as the game has changed so much even in the last ten years.. but yes the kid is a baller

Yeah -- not saying he's the best, just trying to figure out when the last time we've seen a frosh do something like this.

**Sunde91** · 11-10-12, 07:14 PM

1st freshman heisman winner if KSU can lose

**ebbearsfb1** · 11-10-12, 07:15 PM

Honestly can't think of off hand.. IReggie bush? Maybe.. I know guys who have had special seasons but can't remember if it was a freshman or sophomore year .junior year... .

Originally posted by No coincidences

Yeah -- not saying he's the best, just trying to figure out when the last time we've seen a frosh do something like this.

**detroitlionsfan** · 11-10-12, 07:18 PM

no doubt a future 1st rounder

**Big Bear** · 11-10-12, 07:19 PM

Ummm geee let me think......

TIM TEBOW

**Sunde91** · 11-10-12, 07:21 PM

Mike Sherman recruited him

Originally posted by Big Bear

Ummm geee let me think......

TIM TEBOW

and all 5 of his plays trollyourboat

**No coincidences** · 11-10-12, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by detroitlionsfan

no doubt a future 1st rounder

They list him at 6-1, 200 -- is he anywhere near that?

**opie1988** · 11-10-12, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

Frosh (rs) QB from Oregon who is better than the A&M kid.

No way. That Oregon kid is good, but he's no Johnny Football.

**Darkside Magick** · 11-10-12, 07:25 PM

Hershel Walker...best freshman ever!!!!!!!!!!!

**CanuckG** · 11-10-12, 07:25 PM

Yeah ORE QB is alright ...

**Grits n' Gravy** · 11-10-12, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by opie1988

No way. That Oregon kid is good, but he's no Johnny Football.

Your Texas bias is showing. Rangers, Cowboys, Longhorns........shit city. Go tackle jj again and knock his rug off.

**opie1988** · 11-10-12, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

Your Texas bias is showing. Rangers, Cowboys, Longhorns........shit city. Go tackle jj again and knock his rug off.

A&M has no place in my heart.

I'm a UT grad. Johnny is just good.

**rm18** · 11-10-12, 08:06 PM

Oregon kid maybe as a pro but Manzell the best college football player of all times, O/U 2.5 Heismans

**k13** · 11-10-12, 08:13 PM

Ron Dayne
Bradford
Brad Smith
Crabtree
AP
Marshal Faulk

**broadway6** · 11-10-12, 08:23 PM

Michael Vick was a pretty good freshman.

**onacloud** · 11-10-12, 08:27 PM

FRESHMEN IN THE HEISMAN VOTE

Name, Finish, Year
Hershel Walker, 3rd, 1980*
Emmitt Smith, 9th, 1987
Marshall Faulk, 9th, 1991
Michael Vick, 3rd, 1999*
Adrian Peterson, 2nd, 2004*
* -- Heisman finalist

**ShogunRua** · 11-10-12, 08:28 PM

also have to take into account he's playing in the SEC and still putting up these types of numbers.

kid really is incredible

**Gonz312** · 11-10-12, 09:19 PM

Oregon recruited the kid pretty hard from what I remember...their QB now is just the sloppy seconds. Good but not quite where this kid is at yet.

**Ernie Mccracken** · 11-10-12, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by Gonz312

Oregon recruited the kid pretty hard from what I remember...their QB now is just the sloppy seconds. Good but not quite where this kid is at yet.

Hard to imagine a better fit for Chip Kelly's offense. Wonder why they missed on him.

**crustyme** · 11-10-12, 09:26 PM

ron powlus. he won like 4 heismans.

**ColdBeerHere** · 11-10-12, 09:31 PM

The name Johnny Football is fitting.

**paranoyd androyd** · 11-10-12, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by detroitlionsfan

no doubt a future 1st rounder

lol no.

**Wilfred** · 11-10-12, 09:48 PM

Maurice Clarett. Hopefully Manziel doesn't try to challenge the NFL and go pro after this year like he did.

**ronald** · 11-10-12, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by Wilfred

Maurice Clarett. Hopefully Manziel doesn't try to challenge the NFL and go pro after this year like he did.

Was just going to say Clarett.

What a shame how things turned out for him.

He was the talk of college football all season in 2002.

**billysink** · 11-10-12, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Darkside Magick

Hershel Walker...best freshman ever!!!!!!!!!!!

yessir he was.

**gojetsgomoxies** · 11-10-12, 11:31 PM

not sure if people are serious but tebow wasn't the starter in his freshman year. chris leak was. tebow did come in sometimes.

i was thinking maurice clarett as mentioned earlier. also hershell walker

what about braxton miller this year? not nearly as good but i'd throw in UCLA's quarterback. oregon's too.

not sure if these guys were true or redshirt freshmen though? i think the tailbacks were.

**ChalkyDog** · 11-10-12, 11:34 PM

The Freshman QB at Oregon is far more electric and talented. Marcus Mariota - kid is unbelieveable.