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Sleeper; Baltimore Orioles
check out this lineup, might be better than any team they've ever had
1. Brian Roberts
2. Nick markakis
3 adam jones
4 vladimir guerrerro
5 mark reynolds
6. luke scott
7 derrek lee
8 matt wieters
9 jj hardy
Not too bad. Getting roberts back healthy, adding vlad, reynolds. lee. Alot of speed, runs, homeruns also. There 4 -7 might lead the league in hr
Only problem is there pitching staff
J guthrie
b matusz
j duchescherer
j arrieta
b bergesen
relief p
m gonz, uehara, j johnson, accardo, k gregg
"The only problem is their pitching staff" is like saying the only problem the Titanic had was an iceberg!
No pitching = no winning...
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Please stop psycin my favorite team. We might do some tings but at the end of the day we wont be in the playoffs so thats 10000000BILLION wasted on the Orioles year in year out.
Pitching is a big problem. I do see an improvement, and a few good wins vs Sox and Yankees, but not a huge season ahead.
they will be asleep before the season starts
ok ill make a post saying, sleeper: philadelphia phillies
thenplus there p aint that bad
that lineup has the right guys, but the order is all wrong.
rotation has great potential, but as o's fans are all too familiar with, alot of that talent never breaks through.
definately going to be fun to watch this year.....Matusz is a thoroughbread
It's been said already, but they just don't have the pitching staff. Their bullpen is horrid.
that division is too tough they wont finish in the top three
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I think Brian Matuz could have a huge breakout year...future ace
Duscherer is actually really underrated if healthy... ugly game, but he gets it done... moneyball
I like Guthrie as a solid #3. Usually has decent outings and gives his team a chance to win. O's were awful hitting ly, better ty
The O's look like an OVER team with that lineup... with Guthrie giving his team a shot to win that lineup should produce. I think Mark Reyonlds is garbage and he'll have to hit at least .240 or else is value sucks. Luke Scott is better than his stats say. Markakis is a smart patient hitter and better than his stats say ( awesome arm in the outfield), Jones is a good young outfielder. Lee and Vlad could both hit over .300. Vlad still has some left in the tank, I'm telling you. Wieters is a young guy improving. Roberts is a fire cracker. I like it with exception to Mark Reynolds. He's got to get better.
I think if those 3 pitchers step up then the O's could do something this year because that lineup looks good.
this team will lead the majors in strikeouts, wish there was a prop like that, reynolds is awful, vlad is old, roberts coming back from injury so thats a question mark, lee is washed up had a chance with a playoff team but sucked balls, the rest of them are non factors
Orioles have a decent team, just in the wrong division.
The Orioles will be asleep in 5th all year.
Os may get out of the bottom this season.
yes pony, jones, wieters, markakis, hardy are non-factors
rebounding from injuries has never really been a issue for roberts in the past, he usually gets plugged right in and produces like he hasn't missed a beat. obviously chief concern with him is whether he can STAY healthy.
vlad is old? did you not watch him last year? yes i know, ballpark in arlington, but camden is equally as hitter friendly, its amazing it doesn't have the rep an arlington does.
i do agree with the SO comment, reynolds will no doubt lead the league in SOs and you have impatient guys like scott and jones. but it wouldn't surprise me to see them in the top 5 in HRs.
this is why this team will never amount to anything in the al, they give up at bats (SO) for homers not the trade off that wins ball games.Originally Posted by stealthyburrito
yes pony, jones, wieters, markakis, hardy are non-factorsrebounding from injuries has never really been a issue for roberts in the past, he usually gets plugged right in and produces like he hasn't missed a beat. obviously chief concern with him is whether he can STAY healthy. vlad is old? did you not watch him last year? yes i know, ballpark in arlington, but camden is equally as hitter friendly, its amazing it doesn't have the rep an arlington does. i do agree with the SO comment, reynolds will no doubt lead the league in SOs and you have impatient guys like scott and jones. but it wouldn't surprise me to see them in the top 5 in HRs.
Orioles have young arms that should keep improving. Important vets stay healthy. Don't sell Showalter short. Plus .500 record would make it a successful season.
Pitching was a strong point during the short tenure of Showalter.
Actually starting pitching was a strong point. One of their better bullpen guys, killed someone in S. America though. So the Bully might suffer.
you in chat?
is that really their batting order? yahoo shows this
1. 2B Brian Roberts
2. RF Nick Markakis
3. 1B Derrek Lee
4. DH Vladimir Guerrero(notes)
5. LF Luke Scott
6. CF Adam Jones
7. 3B Mark Reynolds
8. C Matt Wieters
9. SS J.J. Hardy
yeah buddy i will pm u a private chat
You dont have to say phillies are the sleeper, but you can say oakland are the sleeper in a division where they have to fight the AL champs and the LAA that have one of the best pitching staff and good bats also. But really saying the oriols are the sleepers in a division where they will not compete against boston neither nyy its insane.ok ill make a post saying, sleeper: philadelphia phillies then
That lineup has a fantastic shot at setting the MLB record for most strikeouts in a season...
IMO Reynolds will have a huge huge year.
I think this will be a really streaky team to be honest. I like Showalter managing these guys, but you have to know that they'll be some shaky times early on.
Last years Diamondbacks were more brutal than what the Orioles are trotting out this year.
Mark Reynolds will keep it close though. Guy is a human fan. Wiff.. whiff.. whiff. If he swung, and missed any harder a tornado would spawn from one of his strikeouts.
Their problem isn't their pitching staff...their problem is the division they play in. They could have a very good year and still finish in 4th place with.
The Red Sox are much improved this year, the Yankees will hit their way through the regular season, and while the Rays are going to take a step back they still have some talent on that team and Madden gets them to play tough game in and game out.
The Blue Jays are probably the only team in the American League East that is taking a step back this year. The division might be even more brutal than it has been in the past few years.....
orioles have no pitching and when you have gregg in the bullpen you know its gonna be a very long year for the o's
5th in the east
lot of recognizable names. but they are mostly have beens, kids not living up to their potential, or over-rated players.
unless 7-8 guys have career years in their old age or whatever. I don't see much happening
Take the overs on the orioles. Theyll get decent runs and let even more past them
you forgot the ace. chris tillman
agreed. Overs are the way to go, in theory
i'm pretty sure the market will be on top of this....and linesmakers might be shading the overs.
so in reality unders might have value for a few weeks
the lineup is full of old players who are way past prime. Dont see much with this club, although Id love to see the somewhere else other than the cellar of the AL East
Hoping for a .500 + season and compete for 3rd place vs the rays. I think we should just be more realistic. Once the O's are over .500 and return next year, some pitchers will eye the o's as a competitor and will sign. I would look for the O's to compete for the wild card in 2012.
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