Originally posted on 05/21/2017:

Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose View Post
As for the Russians, try actually studying some history, they launched a probe weeks before Apollo 11 in an attempt to upstage the Americans. It was to land on the moon's surface and return rock and soil samples. It failed.
Golden goose, the Soviets Luna missions sent unmanned probes
successfully starting in 1970. This is what the American establishment was
trying to upstage. The Soviet and American space programs were
similar in their abilities. Both sent exploration probes to Venus in the 60s.
It is almost as ridiculous to believe that the Soviets could not have developed
the same manned mission, especially by the 1970s and therefore did not send a
manned mission to the moon all the way up to their dissolution many years later
because we were so much more advanced than they were. It's not true.
Just like the JFK assassination tale is not true and the 9/11 official version is a lie.

A 12-year old watching television did not "live through it", all you know is the hype
and the footage they wanted you to see. Just like everyone else. I have the promotion
books from 1969 and other space books from the Kennedy years from my uncle, I've seen
all the same footage you have.

I was an infant when it happened. As a maturing child in the 1970s I heard adults
openly talk about why there was not more things to watch about the subsequent missions.
There was an unspoken suspicion that we should be seeing more about it all.
Then by the 1980s the space shuttle seemed like a giant letdown
because it was nothing more than a dressed-up cargo plane.

There have been many books written about how they could have faked the missions.
One of the best is called Wagging the Moon Doggie and the author died young.
I'm sure you've heard of Gus Grissom and his probable murder.
He said there was no way they were going to make it to the moon.

It is surely not outside the realm of possibility that the selected astronauts swore oaths of
secrecy for national security, considering the masonic symbolism in NASA. They all acted
strangely. They seem like people hiding something. NASA said they taped over it.
The space agency says it probably deleted the original footage in the 1970s and 80s,
when it had a tape shortage and needed to reuse them.