Originally posted on 12/13/2016:

Quote Originally Posted by Ra77er View Post
Well it looks like I've now tagged myself in this thread. I, for the record have not decided on what to take here. I have a play on the other game however in fairness..

The issue I see accounting for those specific games cited is this....what book does 20/20 use to gauge his numbers on? The consensus numbers that are tossed out in Vegas before Pinnacle puts them up are different. That is the key to understanding his point.

Buffalo I see officially opened +1 on December 4 2016 at 6:53 pm. 4 days later it is at +2.5 at 2:39pm.
Dolphins did open at +2.5 on the same day as Buffalo and bounced all over until +2.5 again on the 10th.

I am not taking a side here simply saying this is "tricky" to say the least. Who is to say my numbers are accurate from the line service I use or who is to say what book 20/20 is using to base his 70% theory on? It's certainly flimsy but can be argued still.
I agree it's tricky, and it's vagueness is one of myriad of problems with it. The true opening number is available only in Vegas for a relatively short time before it moves to what I guess you could call the "mainstream" opening number that you get on your online sportsbooks. Your average "square" is not hitting that early opening number on the Strip, though, so that's why Blowjob's mission statement is tenuous at best.

That is also why I made it a point to hone in on the prevailing number that is being dangled in front of the general public for most of the week... Face it, if the books wanted to "lure" action to the underdog, then they'll hang a +3.5 for the majority of the betting period, and be reluctant to move off of that number even when receiving heavy underdog action. That tells us that the books are somewhat sided with the chalk.

That's what I meant when I proposed looking at not necessarily the opener or closer (that's often short-lived anyways) but the number that was available for the bulk of the week... But I said that and Blowjob just lost his shit because he thinks I'm tap-dancing when in reality I'm only trying to produce a clearer picture and one that's easiest to digest.

Fine, whatever.... if he takes a hard stance on the opener, he still has to define a few things, because, like you said, that opens a whole other can of worms. What it also does is give his dumbass more flexibility to tailor the Swiss Cheese System however he sees fit, in an effort to make it appear more lucrative than it really is.

At the end of the day, people need to learn how to pick winners. There is no magic formula. He is trying to push the SC system as a 70% winner, which, in effect, would make it a magic formula. I call bullshit. That's it.

He'll cry and cry about it like a baby with diaper rash, but that's because he Charlie Brown'd himself into the ground.

House of Cards!

Swiss Cheese!

Fraud!

Charlatan!

Scamburger!

Snake Oil Salesman!

Oh, did I mention he routinely performs fellatio on his bookie to cover his debts? Yeah, he does that too.