Originally posted on 11/20/2016:

Well, this was obviously directed my way, so...

Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
The argument that QBs are judged strictly on Super Bowls is for retards who don't understand the game.
Actually, the retards are the ones that can't read & comprehend correctly, then make statements that have nothing to do with what's being discussed. Uh, FYI, nobody in this thread has made the argument that you're trying to assert above; in fact, when this discussion first started in earnest, I purposely made a 'preemptive strike statement' (post #34) in the hopes it would ward off the retard(s) that would, predictably, come along and say "is Dilfer better than Marino?... is Rypien better than Fouts?" blah retard blah. *sigh* But alas, indeed, no good deed goes unpunished. Retards gotta retard.

The following (written from jumpstreet in post #34) is pretty self explanatory:
"Unless you have Marino-type talent, top NFL QB's are measured/separated by playoffs/championships (and Romo sure ain't no Marino... or Fouts, etc.)"

For those able to read & comprehend correctly, they understand what this precisely meant: It means when discussing TOP NFL QB's (a group that doesn't include Dilfer, btw), it is stipulated that they all fall into the (1) GOOD,(2) VERY GOOD or (3) GREAT categories. So, what separates those top guys -- of which, both Eli & Romo belong, somewhere between 1 & 2, neither are category 3 -- from each other when having discussions on people's QB rankings lists, sports talk radio, etc.?

Well... what separates all these good/great players (uh, still not Dilfer, he's not in the discussion, just FYI) in people's minds is exactly what I previously stated: i.e., playoff/championship accomplishments. Don't believe me? Well, try to follow along w/this: Marino doesn't take a back seat to any QB that's ever played in terms of sheer talent, BUT, in any discussion (ever) of compiled lists (be they SI, NFL Network, etc.) no one ever ranks Marino ahead of Montana, Brady, Elway, etc.. WHY?... duh, it's the playoff successes/Super Bowls. That's why! No different than other team sports and why LeBron will never pass MJ and his 6 for 6. Marino is still revered and ranked high b/c his abundant talent can't be ignored despite no championships (also stipulated with what I wrote previously in post #34, for those comprehending).

Now... I didn't realize that some needed me to continue to repeat (well. actually, probably just one person) what I'd previously said from jumpstreet when subsequently telling Chucky it's all about the rings in pro football when specifically talking about Eli and Romo. C was trying to make the argument Romo's career is better b/c of nobody-cares-about stats like yards/per catch and INT ratio. LOLZ. Those stats mean nothing when discussing the top echelon OB's. Hell, Favre threw a million interceptions, Numero uno all-time... he's still a GREAT. Tarkenton, Unitas, Elway are all top ten career in interceptions. None of that matters -- What actually matters is the WINNING. And just like jj's johnson, Romo falls short by comparative measurement.

This isn't golf or tennis. It's football. It's the consummate team sport.
Ah yes, thanks for that enlightenment, Captain Obvious. I do seem to recall my Pop Warner coaches telling our team that a time or two (for real). Football 101... TY for the reminder. I even think my HS coaches worked in some variant of that gem, as well.

BUT, the thing that you're glaringly missing (and Stealthy so perfectly stated above), is that, more times than not in his career, Romo has been a major reason why his team has fallen short. He's oft times been a hindrance in the biggest of spots, not an asset. There's an actual reason why he's viewed as a good QB but also an underachiever (choker?). That perception (held by many) didn't just materialize out of nowhere -- He's earned it. And just cuz Romo fanboys don't want to hold him accountable, it doesn't mean others that aren't emotionally attached won't/don't.

So is Eli a better QB than Dan Marino was? Was Trent Dilfer better than Marino?? Get real.
Silly, nonsensical stuff. As explained above, not germane to the discussion that was actually taking place. You're engaging in a form of rhetorical self masturbation regarding a phantom argument that no one was having or considering (NTTAWWT... we don't judge here.. fap away).
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Romo is a great QB. Eli is a quality QB as well. But Romo is clearly the more athletic QB of the 2. There's no question. If you don't see that, you're simply a fukkin idiot. Period.
Romo is not a great QB... he's a good QB. Great QB's don't back up a rookie when they're ready to play -- sorry to break that news to ya. Elway, Montana, Brady (some others) were/are great. Fanboys are so delusional. And again, you're engaging in an argument no one is having: everyone will stipulate Romo is more athletic overall than Eli... and as Stealthy notes: WTF does that have to do w/anything in defining a better quarterback? Romo's also more athletic than Montana was... DUH.


So OK... we have a coupla Romo nuthuggers obviously getting triggerred in a simple sports discussion where their boy receives some criticism. Got a guy telling me FU and canceling a casino trip and another guy throwing out "retards" & "fukkin idiot" all because of a differing sports opinion. Ah yeah, these guys aren't wrapped too tight. Nawwww.........

Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
choker

78-49 regular season record

2-4 playoffs



decent dude though
archie > opie & chucky