Originally posted on 08/06/2016:

Trip, I miss ya buddy, wish you were around more... but certainly understand the reasons why you're not. Hope all has been going well for ya personally and in your biz ventures.

I appreciate you chiming in w/your views here... BUT... I'm gonna take the liberty to set ya straight a lil bit.

*There isn't any need for a big rigmarole here (i.e. -- added coding, added $ costs to SBR for enforcement, etc.).

As mentiond earlier in thread, I'm willing to set up a tracking mechanism (via thread)... a little "community watch program", if you will. Think Curtis Sliwa, but w/o the silly berets, as I'd rather wear SBR condoms, if anything.

Rough outline: I ask all harmed lenders to post their egregious stiff cases to the thread with all the details (how long has stiff job been, how much still owed, ~time last payment was made, details like that. I'll cull all the available info via pts histories/threads of parties involved. REMEMBER... we're targeting overt, egregious and verifiable thefts here... not posters like onerous that forgot he owed 25pts last Christmas to someone. OBVIOUS STIFF JOB THEFTS, verifiable through posts & pt histories & very importantly, TIME (TxAaron admits his stiff job theft and it's been 2 years, mp's theft was ~4 years ago...cases similar to these).

I volunteered to do all the legwork/communication between the parties and cull all the info in a "case file"... free of charge. Cost SBR nada. Only thing needed from SBR is cooperation and a "contact mod" to send the case file to prove the egregious and obvious theft by a scumbag of another member. (I'd even send the thief a "warning letter/PM" telling them a case file is in process of being built and sent to SBR and they have 2 weeks to start making payments on the debt or they risk getting banned from all SBR contests, promos, or even the site. The PM alone could start the thief paying if he actually knew he could, in fact, be banned from BTP, etc.. and there was some real consequence to his stealing.)

I make clear that anyone that wants a new loan looked at/tracked to post in the special thread set up for it and if cases/loans aren't specifically posted to that thread... nothing can or will be done. THAT THREAD ALONE WOULD BE THE MECHANISM FOR REDRESS. Must be posted there. (btw, in case file I'd also include communications between parties and anything else pertinent to proving the theft case. Mod would simply have to read it. Nothing more fancy or intensive than that from SBR's end; and cooperation that they would, in fact, ban the thief if the case has been concretely proved and the thief had done nothing to attempt to make things right even after the "warning case file letter/PM" was sent.)

More details would be fleshed out in this Community Watch Program to deal with these thieves, but that's kinda the basic premise. And as described, if implemented, there would be ZERO chance the US gov't would take any action b/c it wouldn't change anything that SBR already does, i.e., they dispense pts already, members already gamble those pts in a sportsbook set up for it and redeem merchandise and most pertinent to this issue: they already ban peeps for all kinds of reasons (and some bannings are for things far less egregious than theft from other members.)

DOJ guy: "Hey, did you see they started a Community Watch Program on that site that gives pts and their members gamble to win more points in a sportsbook they set up to redeem merchandise w/those pts?"

DOJ supervisor: "Oh really? Shit... we've wanted to bust those guys for years but now that they have set up a Community Watch Program to ban some peeps for theft instead of just banning for ianappropraite language and shit... WE GOT EM BY THE SHORT HAIRS, NOW! LET'S BUST THEIR ASS! I'll prepare the injunction personally! MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!"

Respectfully, Tripper... ain't gonna happen, buddy.

Also, regarding this from your post: "Weigh the benefits (a small amount of already-paying members would be more satisfied but won't provide any more profit)"

As I previously implied/stated in this thread, I think the subtle consequences to SBR are underestimated: I know I purposely posted less at the height of the Carseller shenanigans b/c I was pissed at what SBR allowed him to get away with and figured "why waste my time contributing my time and energy to assist in making SBR Forum better?" (and yes, I consider myself a good poster for various reasons and a good contributing SBR member)... why waste that time and energy when I see him pulling his shit w/ no consequences and he's sitting at the same poker contests as me and and has all the same benefits as me with no repurcussions for his actions in the Forum Community. AND BTW, THESE THIEVES ARE 100x WORSE THAN CARSELLER!

I know a couple solid posters that have slowed down their posting/contributions for similar thinking because of things they're unhappy w/SBR about. This "hurts" SBR profits in the long run. A Forum is only good as their posters, ultimately. No customers... no business. (Or, less contributing good posters in a forum, less profits for SBR, eventually.) Let's weed out the disrespecting thieves... they never contribute anything of value to the forum, anyway. Don't lose good posters b/c of the thieves. Like I previously mentioned, few things piss me off as much 'round here as sitting next to a thief at a SBR poker table or seeing a thief in BTP.

Now... squeeze in some time so you can play your buddy like old times in the ol' RS! (or RSH, as you prefer)