Originally posted on 11/05/2015:

Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post


Because up until the Iraq war there has never been terrorism ever in the history of the world, nope the middle east was a free and happy place where all races and religions joined hands to sing songs of love and peace.
Quote Originally Posted by AaronRodgers12 View Post
There was nothing anywere near as bad as Isis

Tony Blair has said on cnn he was wrong to invade Iraq

Not saying there was not terrorism but not on the scale it is now


14 years ago we had a few 100 Terrorists on the Hindukush. Now we have over 100.000. Great fukkin progress.

Afghanistan: 14 years of war (bombs, ground troops, occupation), ---> Taliban exactly as strong as they were 15 years ago. No safety whatsoever. Basically no improvement of living conditions. +-220.000 dead.

Irak: 12 years of war (bombs, ground troops, occupation), ---> bred IS, Land basically split in 3 pieces: Shiites, Kurds, IS. Living conditions worse than under Saddam. +-1.000.000 dead.

Libya: 4 years of chaos (bombs, weapons for "rebels"). Country breaking in 3 pieces as well. IS getting stronger every week. People are living WAY WORSE than under Gaddafi. +-40.000 dead.

Syria: 4 years of war (bombs, weapons for "rebels", basically military intervention). Just an inch away from breaking into 3 pieces, Old-Syria, IS/Al-Qaida, Kurds. Living conditions a billion times worse than before. +-250.000 dead.

I've been to Damascus years ago. It was one of the friendliest and safest cities I ever been to! Syria and Libya especially were no threat whatsoever to foreigners just 5 years ago. Now we don't have to talk about Gaddafi, Assad, Saddam etc. They were/are major assholes. So fukking what? As a tourist you were as safe in Libya and Syria as in the US or Germany. Now these counties are fukked up, destroyed, will never be the same. Damascus, one of the safest and most beautiful cities in the world is in damn ruins. Gone.

War against terror my ass. The middle-east is in flames. EU in a major crisis because of refugees. Most of the time, USA is banking on war or money/weapons for so called "rebels" in the middle-east. Brought nothing but an even wider trail of blood. Even our German Bundeswehr is going to Mali now. To fight "terrorism". gtfo.... They don't learn. Bush and Obama are basically just war-criminals. All the while Saudi-Arabia, Kuwait, Katar and co are laughing their asses off while busy making money with us. Where are the weapons from? From where does IS get brandnew Toyota cars and stuff?