Originally <a href='http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/showthread.php?p=24534491'>posted</a> on 09/21/2015:

Checking back into the thread I can see this thread continues to have those attacking Christian beliefs to often times misconstrue the basis of those beliefs to begin with or lay false assumptions like “people never talk about bad things that happen in the bible” to somehow further an attack.

In my opinion, the essence of faith is constantly being attacked here because some just can’t have God on faith. There truly is no need to pit science against faith, yet when those who understand science and believe in its tenets try to understand the nature of faith and heed its tenets, they continue to bring the rules of science along. It’s not necessary. Faith and spirituality are a different ballgame than science, with different rules.

When I use the term juvenile discussion, I often use it to frame the discussion that pits science against God.

Faith and obedience to the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament is not a have it your way type of thing. There are rules to faith. One, obviously, is the requirement of faith.

While some posters want to argue the history of the Old Testament and some don’t want to follow the New Testament, most can agree the wisdom literature has its value. Some of this wisdom is ancient, and when you read it, and its sources, you start to realize even though times and knowledge have both changed, people, and the way they operate, stays very much the same.

The wisdom literature, of course, also addresses God. In it we have what could be considered a rule, or at least some guidance to faith. In chapter 3 of Proverbs it says to “trust in the Lord with all your heart, do not lean on your own understanding.”

Brainfreeze and others have encouraged all of you to read the scripture and consider following it. Could some of you “try faith?” What I mean is could some of you “logical thinkers” who consider God and the Bible “debunked” actually, meaningfully, seek God? Could you delve into scripture and the Bible, openly consider things like trusting the Lord and setting aside your own understanding? Ask yourselves, could you? I suppose for many that can be a life changing question.

And for those who truly lay down the hate and name calling nonsense that couldn’t imagine being capable of enduring such a challenge let’s consider this. Somewhere, some person waits on an operating table for a lifesaving surgery. This person waits because the surgeon, who’s relied on techniques and knowledge, gained from things like the theory of evolution, for every step from diagnoses to even the surgical procedure has to pause.

The surgeon, who’s completed a medical school in which many main principles are based on things like the theory of evolution, among other theories, has to pause because before every surgery the surgeon prays to his Lord and Savior.

That is very realistic scenario and should offer at least something to think about when it comes to what we know, and what we don’t know about the capability of people and spirituality.

Just something I was thinking about as I caught up on some of the posts in this thread.