Originally posted on 04/24/2015:

Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
Wacha and Odorizzi are two elite pitchers that don't get the credit they deserve yet from oddsmakers.
It been like stealing betting wacha lines thus far. Biggest problem is he keeps beating fukkin aces so the secrets prob out of the bag.. His curveball looked awesome yesterday, that had only been a project pitch for him up until this yr, he threw a few yesterday that were very waino-ish. He has incorporated a cutter also which is prob why his k-rate been little lower than Id expect as he been using it quite a bit to get quick outs. Apparently looks and has speed very similar to the change (which has always been filthy) but breaks the opposite direction late. Kid is a absolute stud who has went from having 2 pitches that so good he could get by to being a 4 pitch guy with all 4 being + pitches.

That is far from shocking, mostly expected long as his shoulder was right. Martinez on the other hand has really impressed with his newfound ability to get deep into gms. Efficiency was the only thing ever holding this kid back and thus far he has shown it. His stuff prob the nastiest on the staff, just a matter of harnessing it..grabbed cards early again as I love getting wacha and Martinez cheaper than the other 3..