[James D]

Originally posted on 04/25/2014:

I was surprised they offered this to me, too. I never had more than 10k in my account, but of course I lost it all and now they want the money back.

Dontknowhowtobet explain to me How can he claim he "doesn't have any money at all to pay it back " like you suggested when he has had 10k in his account at some points?

The reason I'm suggesting the 2nd suggestion is not because I'm up to do these kind of fishy/fraudulent things. I just can't believe how those gambling establishments are legally allowed to create so many debts for people just like that ...

How are the gaming establishments "establishing debts for people just like that"? Addiction is a bad thing however if people are allowed to just say they are compulsive gamblers then the industry can not exist. I guarantee you if this man won 30k and was not paid he would be here bitching and you would be here supporting him .saying the sports books are criminals for not paying So how is that fair??? Explain to me how that is reasonable.

The one's being a shithead is the gambling industry, preying on people like him who have to deal with this debt.
Personally I don't think it's such a bad idea to give them troubles, don't pay them, and make them spend lots of money on solicitors who would end up getting nothing if the guy has no assets and 100% of his income is used for living.

I don't believe in a system that is designed against you created by greedy people who want to take other people's money as much and as quick as they can.

Being a shithead for not paying is when you don't pay someone for his work, don't pay for services you take, don't pay for a bus ticket and so forth ... not paying to the gambling industry is a great thing, I would encourage it instead of calling the wrong people 'shitheads' because that is utterly rubbish and idiotic claim.

If you feel sports books are scum why do you want to be at SBR? SBR survives due to the sports books and the industry. You brag about being a pro for SBR when it's entire model depends on the sportsbooks you hate.

If you beat up the book for 30k profit and wanna cash it and they duck you.... then what? I thought so. Youre Pissed. And cry and whine. Be a man.
Hes in debt due to noone's fault but his own. Pay the debt. If you didnt have the money to pay it then DONT fukkin bet. Check into rehab. Get a life outside of this.

Exactly.

No, unfortunately that is not always the case as you're trying to portray.
I know someone who won $50,000 with a bookmaker and the bookmaker is refusing to pay him out. I'm just not allowed to talk about it here since that person is dealing with SBR about that.

Bookmakers are not quick to payout. They find reasons why not to, they take their time, make you wait, asking for more documents, and many other things. Funny enough, there was one bookmaker that told me they need 14 days to approve my documents before processing a withdrawal. I said "fine, so self-exclude me then", they asked me why and I told them I had a gambling problem and they by surprise I got my withdrawal processed same day and all of my documents were approved because it was useless to them to make me wait whilst they know I cannot bet with them any longer.

They are not the most honest people on earth, they are there to TAKE your money, not to PAY you...

If this entire industry was a honest and decent industry, then by all means I would have agreed with you.
But this goes both ways.
You need to understand this doesn't work one way only, and that is why I'm not a big advocator of paying debt to such scumbags.

blah blah blah just because one book doesn't pay has nothing to do with another book. That you assume this book is unethical and your friend who lost 30k is a saint is a joke.

I didnt say he had to pay it all back fast.
But running away is for pussies. He made his bed, he now needs to lay in it. Pay the damn debt. Noone should have been monitoring his betting except himself.
If you eat McDonald's all the time, will McDonald's cut you off? No. Gotta learn self control or he help.

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This is about a guy free rolling as much as anything else.

I was glad I am a pro at SBR.
This is a forum, not a gambling establishment.
At least here everyone's free and entitled to speak and express his own opinion, am I not right?

The thread I made by the way was NOT from today so get your facts straightened up first.
Also as you can appreciate I am no longer gambling.
I used the money I deposited to become pro to bet on one side, deposited same amount elsewhere and lost 10% of that amount, but did not lose the entire amount of money.

In fact, the bookmaker I was using was processing withdrawals like 21 days after your first deposit, so I've decided to bet 100 on one NBA side, then 100 on another, making the bet wins on the other site that pays within 24 hours (in fact immediately) so I won't have to wait to get this money back.

Unfortunately the bet was winning with the other site so I had to do it again and then it "worked".
So as you can see, I wasn't gambling, I "bought" my PRO status for less than 10 pounds, and I'm happy with that.

You made the thread bragging about being a pro the day before, not to same day. I really see how a one day difference is relevant. If you really bet both sides just to become an SBR pro that is so sad I want to cry for you. Why for even 10 pounds join an organization that supports something you hate so much?

What a money spinner this trick must be. Offering 30k credit to a problem gambler is predatory. Surprised they don't need some sort of money license before they can enforce those sort of debts.

How does this book know he is a problem gambler? Just because he lost? If he won is he a problem gambler ?

He definitely needs to respond but he needs to prove he cannot repay anything.
It is possible.

He admits to having 10k of his own in the account before getting credit, now he can say he has no money at all to pay? That seems really sincere, honest and ethical