Originally posted on 06/24/2013:

Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
i would probably pitch around him and take my chances with Edwin.
Edwin isn't exactly horsecrap against Hellickson, he's 6 for 23 (.261) with a ding dong.

Then you have to face Adam Lind, who's having a career year, because of Joey Bats and Edwin in front of him. Lind's across the board numbers this year are rock-solid, .337 10-30, eye popping .402 OBA, and just as important hits Hellickson hard, 5 for 15, (.333) two of the five hits are roped doubles, 3 RBI's, 2 walks, which translates into a .412 OBA v. Hellickson.

After that tonight you got Arencebia, who also rakes Hellickson, 5 for 17 (.294) lifetime says so.
JP is one of the better hitting catchers in the AL, and has home run pop.

By the time you get to the soft spot of the Jay line up, the damage might already be done.

This line up should, operative word being should, torch Hellickson tongiht

Melky Cabrera LF
Jose Bautista RF
Edwin Encarnacion DH
Adam Lind 1B
Colby Rasmus CF
J.P. Arencibia C
Maicer Izturis 3B
Emilio Bonifacio 2B
Munenori Kawasaki SS
(Esmil Rogers P)



PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SH SF IBB HBP GDP missG
Edwin Encarnacion 24 23 6 2 0 1 1 1 2 .261 .292 .478 .770 0 0 0 0 0
Colby Rasmus 21 20 4 2 0 1 2 1 5 .200 .238 .450 .688 0 0 0 0 0
J.P. Arencibia 18 17 5 1 0 0 1 1 3 .294 .333 .353 .686 0 0 0 0 0
Jose Bautista 18 15 7 1 1 2 3 3 3 .467 .556 1.067 1.622 0 0 0 0 0
Adam Lind 17 15 5 2 0 0 3 2 4 .333 .412 .467 .878 0 0 0 0 0
Maicer Izturis 12 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 .167 .167 .167 .333 0 0 0 0 0
Melky Cabrera 8 8 4 1 0 0 1 0 1 .500 .500 .625 1.125 0 0 0 0 0
Rajai Davis 8 8 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 .125 .125 .125 .250 0 0 0 0 0
Munenori Kawasaki 5 4 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .250 .400 .250 .650 0 0 0 0 0
Josh Thole 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0
Total 133 124 35 9 1 4 11 9 24 .282 .331 .468 .799 0 0 0 0 0




Tampa Bay has never faced Rogers as a starter.
Rogers is having a decent year so far, 3.14 ERA and a 1.21 WH/IP ratio is solid, especially in the big bat division, but take those numbers with a little grain of salt, this is only Rogers 5th start this season, he's relieved in 27 games this year, so he's not a long distance guy, he should give the Jays six good innings.
So expect to see Brett Cecil, whose numbers in relief this season are outstanding, and maybe Loup and Delabar, who ain't exactly chopped liver.

On paper, and games are played on grass, not paper, I get that, but on paper, the logical play is to ride the Jays again.
The 'Jays are due to lose theory' have sunk a lot of bankrolls the past few days, no reason to fade them again tonight.

Jays or nothing is the play