Originally <a href='/showthread.php?p=15992988'>posted</a> on 09/12/2012:

Quote Originally Posted by wrongturn View Post
Dark Horse, your argument is at least consistent. I wish you could be a supreme court judge as I can sneak in to any books that have banned me and come out okay if got caught. Basically what you saying that books/casinos banning players is a non-enforceable rule, same to any other rules that not related to gaming odds and gaming rules. I don't think it is going to fly in the real world though.
It already has flown. Monte Carlo. The policy is enforceable, but not retroactively where it comes to any honest betting action.

I find it hard to believe how easily people buy into the crocodile tears of a casino. Especially online. They make millions with these rigged games, but somebody slips through their identity check, takes a little back, and the cries of foul play start. Just incredible.

There's another issue on the table, and that is the fact that the money belongs to the player, or the book, as soon as any bet is decided. After that, the online book only holds the money for the player, because it would obviously be too much of a hassle to move the money in and out every day. As such, the player extends to the book a level of trust normally reserved for banks. But the book holding the money for the player is not a bank, and certainly does not have any right to refuse the player his money when he asks for it. That is way across the line. So the way Heritage is using their socalled Fraud Department is a clear expression of free rolling. If you lose, all is well with their world. If you win, they reserve the right to pay you or not, long after you rightfully believed the money belonged to you!
This could be months later in the online world.

The system that is in place is a joke. Sad to see that SBR is going along with it.