[Tree Rollins]

Jordan Magic Bird Kareem Oscar Wilt Russell Shaq All definitely higher than Kobe. He's right behind them tho, with potential to move up

Bird never won a title without at least 3 other hall of famers on his team, and even had 4 other hall of famers for 1 title.Shaq never won a title without the the 2nd best player in the league on his team. Jordan never won a title without the best wing defender of all-time on his team, or without one of the top 5 players in the league on his team. Kareem never won a title without a top-10 player of all time on his team.
If people are going to use the 'Shaq' argument against Kobe, then use it against everyone else.