[cyberinvestor]

Grandmaster B = Typical forum know-nothing blowhard. He also sounds exactly like the other guy who was in here screaming that "You'll never get your money back from offshore", "I told you so" when the Greek closed to the US, etc. I think his handle was Tree something or Green something?

Yep! His name is "TheGreen" and the guy adds nothing to the forum. Everytime there is a thread about the government shutting one down, all he contributes is "the end is near", "get your money out", and a handful of other sound bytes he practically cuts and pastes across the various threads. If there is a thread about a sportsbook complaint then he writes "all books are scams" "I told you that no book can be trusted", etc. He has a massive hard-on against the offshore industry that I would love to know his story. I asked him once and he answered with some fluff like he was a super hero trying to protect people's money. I don't buy that one. Seems to me some book either didn't pay him for something TheGreen did or Tony (5Dimes) ran off with his wife or girlfriend.

Back to the other topic here. Something I just wanted to add is any method you use to get cash from an offshore book is being tracked. Whether check, wire, p2p, direct dep, e-wallets, etc. Every method of payout puts you on "the grid" in some way. Even if a book sent you CASH by FEDEX there is still a record in Fedex of Joe Blow getting a package every week from XXX Processing out of Antigua or Canada or wherever. Fedex has flags just like p2p companies and your local bank. It's meant to monitor smuggling and other trafficking crimes.

The key to this discussion and why nobody on here can report being arrested by the FBI or even local authorities for gambling offshore is simply because there is no law against it. Some people will come on here and say...hey, it's illegal in Washington or whatever state to be a GAMBLER. Yeah, first of all a small minority of states outlaw being a gambler. Second, show me one person prosecuted for being a gambler in all of the US. Doesn't exist. It's not worth law enforcement time and if you ever find a case of someone being charged with being a gambler and breaking that state's law against it then it is usually on top of other charges. So, the point being nobody gets arrested for being a gambler.

The moral of the story is get the payout in whatever method you like and is easiest. At the end of the day everything has a papertrail from the book or processor to you. IT HAS TO OTHERWISE HOW WOULD IT GET TO YOU! The FBI or whomever you are afraid of has many more important things to worry about than GrandmasterB and his $300 or $3,000 check withdrawal from Heritage. Sure you might get flagged by a p2p company, your local bank, whatever for your gambling. You may even get a few SARs filed on you to the IRS. So what? Unless you are laundering money on the side or making hundreds of thousands in gambling and not paying your taxes then you won't notice a thing. These various flags will sit on file forever as 98% of them do. Just make sure your taxes are paid on any NET WINNINGS (which isn't a problem for most gamblers since they are usually on a net loss for the year).

I do understand the whole "Big Brother" concern but it is so over hyped it isn't even funny. Many people on TV or the internet point to concern over wiretap laws by saying "I don't want the government listening in on my conversations"...NEW FLASH....the government doesn't care about your conversations. Since when did you become that important? There are over TWO BILLON, yes 2,000,000,000 phone calls placed just on cell phones every day. Who is going to monitor those? You would need tens of millions of employees just to handle that task of reviewing the calls they tapped every day. Same goes for your offshore gambling. You might get some heat from your local bank (banks are required to monitor for gambling transactions and if they catch you the worst that happens is they end your relationship with them....oh scary!) or flagged by a p2p company but the government is the least of your concerns. So again, I conclude, get the money whatever is easiest for you and relax. The FBI is not going to be busting down your door with the headline in the paper the next day reading..."FBI raids house of man who got $5000 from sports betting offshore."