At some point you have to admit there was something that led to everything. Track back as far as you want still something came first and created the beginning. The need for atheists to try and discredit and attack believers is sign of their doubt and confusion. The "your dumb because you believe in something you can't prove" argument is old and obnoxious. Atheists can not prove there is no God and I personally know their is one all though it can not be proven in "scientific" means.