[darrell74]

Player hating
That's all this is

Brady is not that bad.
He's lost a few games, but he's won a bunch.

If you want to hate a fraud, try Jamarcus Russel.
Now that guy is a fraud.

[Scorpion]

I agree

Brady is a Fukking fraud

Fukk him

[Frostware]

I use to hate Brady & Patriots... After this year I give them the respect they earned.

[HoulihansTX]

His team is weak this year.

[schism79]

Known this for years. A joke that people compare this guy to Manning, an absolute joke. Sad that it's taken people this long to realize..

Donk, that's shocking to hear from you. I always respect your opinions, but this one is just insane. Manning has always had a go-to guy, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, even Dallas Clark to an extent. In all the biggest games of the last decade, Manning choked when it mattered. Manning won only one Super Bowl, thanks to Brady being unable to put the AFC title game away in 2006 because his #1 WR that year was Reche F$#$#ing Caldwell. Brady won three Super Bowls with mediocre offenses and solid defense. Deion Branch, David Givens, David Patten....if Manning was throwing to those guys, Colts wouldn't have done much at all.

To say that it's up for debate, or that they're both in the Top 10 all time, fine......to say it's an "absolute joke" that people just compare Brady to Manning is an ignorant statement, plain & simple.

The one (1) year that Brady actually had a legitimate deep threat (Moss), he threw 50 TDs and they should have gone 19-0....I know you're a Colts homer, and you're probably pissed about all those opportunities that Brady ruined for Ogre Manning, but let's be real.

Just face it, if neither of them wins another Super Bowl, Brady will go down in history as the better QB in most people's books. And I can guarantee that Manning isn't winning another one....his neck is jacked, and it's over. Good riddance, we don't have to see the Manning Face any more after yet another playoff INT.

I still respect you as a capper, but to dismiss Brady like he's even not in the discussion with Manning is probably the dumbest thing ever said, by anyone.

[poochiecollins]

this is what sucks about MLK day, these kids at home posting instead of being in school.

[poochiecollins]

But there will always be ignorant tools that say the Dog Killer should get MVP.

[Scorpion]

Brady wears a man purse. And likes 2 fingers while getting head.

[ThaTopMoron]

Pride>UFC

Brady is the best QB in the league hands down. 1 bad game in which he had no blocking with 3 rushers getting to him against max coverage doesn't make him overrated. He was the MVP this year and led his team to a 14-2 record. In 07 he broke every record leading his team to a 16-0 record. Why are 12 year old's allowed to use their computer unsupervised?

Brady>>>>>>>Manning

So you are defending Brady for 2 of his last 4 years (08 injured) by basically throwing out stats and records, awards won? But no Super Bowls won... regular season doesn't matter, remember? that was all you heard from Pats fans up until about the 07 chokejob of all time to Giants (favored by 2 tds)



Brady still has another ace up his sleeve to endure on of these next few years, losing in the Playoffs because of his defense failing him in OT and a missed field goal at the end of the game going for a tie/win...can't wait.

Hell, I think the Pats kicker is warming up to do it... as he shanked a 27 yarder vs the Giants on Sunday

[Fleeben]

Threads like these really confirm that this forum is one of the dumbest places on the internet

[rsnnh12]

So you are defending Brady for 2 of his last 4 years (08 injured) by basically throwing out stats and records, awards won? But no Super Bowls won... regular season doesn't matter, remember? that was all you heard from Pats fans up until about the 07 chokejob of all time to Giants (favored by 2 tds)



Brady still has another ace up his sleeve to endure on of these next few years, losing in the Playoffs because of his defense failing him in OT and a missed field goal at the end of the game going for a tie/win...can't wait.

Hell, I think the Pats kicker is warming up to do it... as he shanked a 27 yarder vs the Giants on Sunday

The jealousy of Manning fans tastes so good

Brady led 3 Super Bowl winners, and the only year he had a lot of offensive talent around him, he set records for QBs. Not only does Manning not match him in playoff/SB performance, but he doesn't even have the regular season stats advantage anymore

Pretty clear who the better QB is now. Ray Lewis knows it, Darrelle Revis knows it, Joe Montana knows it. When will NFL fans accept it?

[SportsPedagogy]

What I don't get about this "regular season don't matter" is each year, there are 32 starting QBs. Only one can winter superbowl .... Are you saying that there are 31 chokers ? That Trent Dilfer was the best QB in the league when the Ravens Won it all ? That The difference between Eli being great and a choker is the Int that was dropped in the superbowl ?

[4TH AND STUPID]

heres a better question....


if you put carson palmer into the n.e offense does new england win a game ever again?

if you put matt ryan in there does new england finish above .500?



just by asking alternate questions you will answer to the level of stupidity of this thread

[Mr Handicapable]

The jealousy of Manning fans tastes so good

Brady led 3 Super Bowl winners, and the only year he had a lot of offensive talent around him, he set records for QBs. Not only does Manning not match him in playoff/SB performance, but he doesn't even have the regular season stats advantage anymore

Pretty clear who the better QB is now. Ray Lewis knows it, Darrelle Revis knows it, Joe Montana knows it. When will NFL fans accept it?

I'm from Indy and I consider Manning/Brady a push. You're seeing what the real Colts team is this year without PM. Yeah Brady didn't have Marvin Harrison and a nice dome to throw in all these years but he always had a good defense and he also had 3 clowns in his division up til Ryan got to the Jets. Thats 6-0 or 5-1 GUARANTEED with Buffalo, Jets, and Miami for most of his career. Peyton had to deal with strong Tenn and Jacksonville squads for most of his career. Those games gave SB bound NE the homefield advantage twice over Indy. Indy gets those at home and atleast 1 Brady ring slides over to Peyton. Indy also is among the worst in time of possession YEAR AFTER YEAR with that soft prevent defense. Lets see what Brady could do WHEN HE DOESNT HAVE THE BALL???

[rsnnh12]

I'm from Indy and I consider Manning/Brady a push. You're seeing what the real Colts team is this year without PM. Yeah Brady didn't have Marvin Harrison and a nice dome to throw in all these years but he always had a good defense and he also had 3 clowns in his division up til Ryan got to the Jets. Thats 6-0 or 5-1 GUARANTEED with Buffalo, Jets, and Miami for most of his career. Peyton had to deal with strong Tenn and Jacksonville squads for most of his career. Those games gave SB bound NE the homefield advantage twice over Indy. Indy gets those at home and atleast 1 Brady ring slides over to Peyton. Indy also is among the worst in time of possession YEAR AFTER YEAR with that soft prevent defense. Lets see what Brady could do WHEN HE DOESNT HAVE THE BALL???

Since the Colts left for the AFC South, both divisions have had 6 wild card playoff teams. I'll agree that the East was weaker, but I can't find the out of division records of the last decade for each team in the South and East, so its hard to say how much.

Why do you assume that a home game would not only mean a Pats loss, but also a Colts Super Bowl win? Brady has a better career dome QB rating than Manning does, Belichick usually had good schemes to slow Manning, and most importantly, Manning tended to suck in clutch situations. Why do you think that would've changed?

[The High Flier]

Brady hasn't beat a good team with a pass rush in a game that mattered since Mangenius broke spygate in 2007. They lost to the Giants then and now again (game 16 of the regular season was not important).

Marshall Faulk said the Rams first 20 plays were scripted and practiced and he always felt like the Patriots knew the script after they played the superbowl. Turns out they did.

[rsnnh12]

Brady hasn't beat a good team with a pass rush in a game that mattered since Mangenius broke spygate in 2007. They lost to the Giants then and now again (game 16 of the regular season was not important).

Marshall Faulk said the Rams first 20 plays were scripted and practiced and he always felt like the Patriots knew the script after they played the superbowl. Turns out they did.

Wtf? No they didn't. They never videotaped a practice. What they did (videotaping signals) was not against the rules, and teams still to this day videotape from the sidelines and it is perfectly legal. The Jets, THIS YEAR, were seen on the broadcast footage with an employee with a camera.

This "Pats cheated" nonsense needs to end. Its nothing more than an excuse for bitter fans to justify their teams losing

[The High Flier]

This "Pats cheated" nonsense needs to end. Its nothing more than an excuse for bitter fans to justify their teams losing

After an investigation, the NFL fined Patriots head coach Bill Belichick $500,000 (the maximum allowed by the league) for his role in the incident, fined the Patriots $250,000, and docked the team their original first-round selection in the 2008 NFL Draft



You don't fine someone the maximum penalty and give them the harshest penalty possible, the loss of a first round pick, because they didn't do anything.

[rsnnh12]

After an investigation, the NFL fined Patriots head coach Bill Belichick $500,000 (the maximum allowed by the league) for his role in the incident, fined the Patriots $250,000, and docked the team their original first-round selection in the 2008 NFL Draft



You don't fine someone the maximum penalty and give them the harshest penalty possible, the loss of a first round pick, because they didn't do anything.

"We wanted to take and destroy that information," Goodell said. "They may have collected it within the rules, but we couldn't determine that. So we felt that it should be destroyed."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=3227245

Hmm, so it looks like videotaping signals was never against the rules after all... what else you got?

[wikkidinsane]

idiot post. How many qbs won 3 superbowls? The guy is one of the most accurate passers in nfl and at end of career will be considered the greatest of all time. Wtf you smoking

[Scorpion]

[rsnnh12]

Never adding anything of substance or fact, what a surprise

[ManBearPig]

I'm not a Brady fan boy but if I recall correctly it was Brady who marched NE down the field to score a TD on 4th&8,while the defense failed to stop Eli from doing the same in 1:30. He did his part with what he can control.

[slacker00]

heres a better question....


if you put carson palmer into the n.e offense does new england win a game ever again?

if you put matt ryan in there does new england finish above .500?



just by asking alternate questions you will answer to the level of stupidity of this thread

They put in Matt Cassell and they went 11-5. So, you're just another Brady hater trying to use logic?

Give Brady his due, he's won big games, rings and MVPs. Is he the greatest ever? No. Premium QB? Yes.

[Scully]

Brady's clutch? That's a myth...

Ever since cheating to win 3 super bowls by 3 points, the Pats choke in a more embarrassing way than the year before.

It's never too dfifficult to tell who lost money the previous Sunday or Monday based on simple-minded threads like this one. How much did Tom 'the man' Brady cost you with the loss on Sunday there Pride?

[dmiles1021]

this kid is a ******* retard, another pats hater...

[thebestthereis]

patriots bomb teams and cash tickets brady is all time great, he chokes and torches tickets to ashes he is worse than heath shuler, maybe worse. that is how it works.

[Scorpion]

NYJ will rape Tommie this week
Just sack Tommie one time and he will play like a little CU NT
NYJ -1 for 2 units

[Scorpion]

Brady is 0-2 in legit super bowls, post spygate

brady is a fraud

[dilaudid8]

this game was not brady fault the little man that should follow the yellow brick road tom had a very good game with 4 min left they had the ball he did all he could do was throw the ball down field like his wife said he can't throw the ball and catch it to, if he does make that catch we would be talking about how great brady is but the little loser dropped the ball this will hunt brady for the rest of his life. he can't help that his recevers are loser's tom did all that he could do but the N.Y.G. got very lucky again but that's football the little guy was afraid to catch the ball because he was going to get hit ty