[tmac4448]

This is no trap game. I thought it was a trap last week when the Giants were -2.5 favs, but it wasn't. I would put more than a few on GB-3(thats what it is at superbook) for theses reasons...

1. GB went to the Meadow Lands and dominated the Giants, went to Mile High and beat the Broncos, went to Arrow Head and beat the Cheifs, and went to the metrodome (extremely loud, devoted fans, turf, closest place to the silver dome) and beat the vikings. All tough places to play and no problem winning. (They would be undefeated if they did not give the Bears a game on a silver plater).

2. GB lives and dies with the pass game (but the rush game shows signs of improvement). Detroit can not defend the pass.

3. Somebody said that the Lion are tied for second in the NFL in INTs. Lets break that down...McCown(oak)-2,Jackson(min)-4,Griese(chi)-7,Ramsey(den)-1,Warner(ariz)-1. So they have proven that they can pick-off Brian Griese 7 times and a bunch of other subpar QBs on subpar teams. But average QBs or better ones they have less luck with...McNabb(phil)-0, Cambell(Wash)-0, Garcia(TB)-0, Manning(NYG)-0. So when they play Farve and a quality Packers team I expect the same.

4. The Pack have won 8 (all by no less than 3) of the last 10 against the Lions. This year the pack are 9-1 outright and 8-1-1 ATS. The Lions this year are 6-4 outright and 5-4-1 ATS.

5. Last but not least, the packs defense. This squad is armed with the most impressive CB combo in the league. They are physical, can tackle, can read routs, and can stick with the Lion recievers. The Lions can't really run the ball very well, but if they could (or try) it would not matter because Green Bay can defend it. And the Pack can pressure the ball; They are tied for 5th in the league in sacks(with Det and a few others), but Det is last in getting sacked with 43...the pack are 7th with only 14.



DETROIT IS A PRETENDER, THE PACKERS ARE LEGITIMATE CONTENDERS. PACK WIN BY NO LESS THAN A TOUCHDOWN.

[bradleysnyder]

you are wrongggggggggggggggggg sir.DETROIT WINS.....

[tmac4448]

I'm also taking the Pats over 50 and Seattle -3 vs St. Louis

[tmac4448]

I may be a rookie here, but I am far from a rookie when it comes to wagering on games

[chandler1981]

All good points. Thanks

[ChuteBoxe]

This is no trap game. I thought it was a trap last week when the Giants were -2.5 favs, but it wasn't. I would put more than a few on GB-3(thats what it is at superbook) for theses reasons...

1. GB went to the Meadow Lands and dominated the Giants, went to Mile High and beat the Broncos, went to Arrow Head and beat the Cheifs, and went to the metrodome (extremely loud, devoted fans, turf, closest place to the silver dome) and beat the vikings. All tough places to play and no problem winning. (They would be undefeated if they did not give the Bears a game on a silver plater).

2. GB lives and dies with the pass game (but the rush game shows signs of improvement). Detroit can not defend the pass.

3. Somebody said that the Lion are tied for second in the NFL in INTs. Lets break that down...McCown(oak)-2,Jackson(min)-4,Griese(chi)-7,Ramsey(den)-1,Warner(ariz)-1. So they have proven that they can pick-off Brian Griese 7 times and a bunch of other subpar QBs on subpar teams. But average QBs or better ones they have less luck with...McNabb(phil)-0, Cambell(Wash)-0, Garcia(TB)-0, Manning(NYG)-0. So when they play Farve and a quality Packers team I expect the same.

4. The Pack have won 8 (all by no less than 3) of the last 10 against the Lions. This year the pack are 9-1 outright and 8-1-1 ATS. The Lions this year are 6-4 outright and 5-4-1 ATS.

5. Last but not least, the packs defense. This squad is armed with the most impressive CB combo in the league. They are physical, can tackle, can read routs, and can stick with the Lion recievers. The Lions can't really run the ball very well, but if they could (or try) it would not matter because Green Bay can defend it. And the Pack can pressure the ball; They are tied for 5th in the league in sacks(with Det and a few others), but Det is last in getting sacked with 43...the pack are 7th with only 14.



DETROIT IS A PRETENDER, THE PACKERS ARE LEGITIMATE CONTENDERS. PACK WIN BY NO LESS THAN A TOUCHDOWN.

I agree. I posted this in another thread, but it's relevant here too...

The reason it's only -3...

Green Bay as road favorite in November: 5-11-1 ATS
Green Bay on Thanksgiving Day: 11-18-2 SU
Detroit Lions as home underdog against Packers: 10-1 ATS
Detroit Lions as home underdog against Packers: 8-3 SU


I bought the point and have the Packers at -2.5 because...

• Favre's completion pct, td/int ratio, and qb rating have been higher on turf than grass the past 2 seasons.
  
• Kitna was 0-2 last season against Green Bay with 3 interceptions. We all know the D this year is much improved.
  
• Last but not least, I'm hoping that Brandon Jackson gets the start, since Ryan Grant is Questionable. Even if he doesn't, I'm sure Grant will be limited, and share some of his carries. Jackson has a better history on turf due to experience from his career at Nebraska.

Close game ONLY because it's Thanksgiving, and the Lions tradition on the day, but no way Detroit is winning this one. I see it as a def win at 2.5, and wouldn't be suprised if the Packers won by 7. Green Bay will NOT be overlooking Detroit, they need the win. Dallas is not going to be an easy game, and will most likely result in a loss for the Pack. I can see TO now, just running down the field on Charles Woodson.

[tmac4448]

The reason that I didn't give to much attention to the past novembers for green bay is because for about the past 7years Green Bay has been beaten up and looking for table scraps going into November. But now they are confident, healthy for the most part, and at the head of the table cutting the turkey. And Brett is having one of his greatest years and can really prove that with a great Thanksgiving performance.

I agree with you buying the point for the saftey, my sportsbook had it at 3 so I left it alone because I would take a push. But I truley dont see how Detroit can make it that close.

[ChuteBoxe]

Yup, I agree, that's why I went with the -2.5. I remember one college game I took this year, forgetting the other team as of right now, but i'll remember it. They said that Notre Dame hasn't lost at home to them in 50+ years. Like a moron I took Notre Dame. They lost. Anything is possible, but I will be shocked if Green Bay doesn't win this by at least 3.