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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Why do you hate New England so much? Is it because they are predominantly white? I know you hate the white man.
    Stop. I respect Brady and Bill. This is mostly Bill though. He elected to receive today. Then took the ball and ate the clock

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKolzig View Post
    unfortunately giant this could be the pats last year as a superpower. belichick is weird and might retire after the season. brady looked like a surgeon today and should play at a solid level for at least another year. so they could on paper be good again (pick up golden tate plz) if they all come back. but 2-3 years from now they are finished. all done. all their defensive "stars" will be 31+ and slow and injury prone.....the defense is going to be really bad. it will be the worst defense the pats have had in 20 years. doubt brady and bill stick around for that
    sounds like every post in september on the forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdom View Post
    lol
    What so funny bro?

    You going to tell me Brees isn't an all time great?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Stop. I respect Brady and Bill. This is mostly Bill though. He elected to receive today. Then took the ball and ate the clock
    Do you think Bill Walsh was more important than Montana?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Do you think Bill Walsh was more important than Montana?
    Did Montana win without him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    I don't know anymore, man.

    I got decimated this weekend.
    One thing's for sure, G. Lines for next 3 games are going to be razor-sharp. There won't be a qualified Game of a Lifetime rest of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Did Montana win without him?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Did Montana win without him?
    Yes, he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    One thing's for sure, G. Lines for next 3 games are going to be razor-sharp. There won't be a qualified Game of a Lifetime rest of the way.
    I know. I initially thought this Kansas City game looked pretty good, but now I'm questioning it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Yes.
    The Denver game? Right. Will Brady win without Bill? NO

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    Its interesting because all the tangibles favor the Chiefs, clearly the better team, but a lot of the intangibles favor the Pats, coaching, more pressure on the Chiefs because they are at home.

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    LB you know very well that the Patriots dont lose in January

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    The Denver game? Right. Will Brady win without Bill? NO
    Stupidest analogy ever.

    Bill hasn't won anything without Brady.

    I don't know why you hate Tommy so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    LB you know very well that the Patriots dont lose in January
    They don't?


    1-4 in January on the road with Brady and Bill. NEXT

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Stupidest analogy ever.

    Bill hasn't won anything without Brady.

    I don't know why you hate Tommy so much.
    I guess you forgot the 2 Superbowl wins in NY. I guess you must be stupid. You did get decimated this weekend. He orchestrated the greatest game plan ever to stop that great bills offense. You were probably too little to stay up that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    What so funny bro?

    You going to tell me Brees isn't an all time great?
    Anyone who tries making that argument needs to be checked into the looney bin

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I guess you forgot the 2 Superbowl wins in NY. I guess you must be stupid. You did get decimated this weekend. He orchestrated the greatest game plan ever to stop that great bills offense. You were probably too little to stay up that day.
    That was all Bill Parcells.

    The Big Tuna.

    One of the greatest coaches of all time.

    Belichick couldn't win a thing without him until he latched on to Tommy Brady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    That was all Bill Parcells.

    The Big Tuna.

    One of the greatest coaches of all time.

    Belichick couldn't win a thing without him until he latched on to Tommy Brady.
    Big tuna my ass. He did nothing after Bill b left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    They don't?


    1-4 in January on the road with Brady and Bill. NEXT
    Overall record please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Big tuna my ass. He did nothing after Bill b left.
    Uh, he got the Patriots to the Super Bowl, WITHOUT Brady.

    He got the Dallas Cowboys a playoff win or two.

    He's a legend.

    Look, the point is all these people need each other.

    Just like Michael needed Scottie.

    Quit hating, son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    Overall record please.
    Game is on the road. I don't care about the home games

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKolzig View Post
    bradys recievers blow. edelman has no speed or catch radius. chris hogan is barely in the league. dorsett is a journeyman. gronk is clearly a shell of himself........the oline played great both run and pass but what makes brady great is his decision making.hes like a point guard that never turns it over, just takes whats there and is so accurate everyone takes it for granted. look at that lob foles tried late in the 4th, missed it by 5 yards. brady makes that throw easy

    and they have had bad offensive lines. so one can say they have a top 10 offensive line every year. yet they are always a final 4 team
    TB brain is a football computer. and he processes faster than anyone, along with peyton manning. but brady has a fail safe where he doesn't throw the big picks. the o line always looks better when your qb makes quick reads and better decisions. thats why i laugh when idiots say rodgers is better because he can make more throws lol. playing qb in the nfl isn't all about the arm. For vets especially it is the brain as well. brady is the rare combo of great game mgr and great qb. he can beat you anyway you wanna do it. speed you up, slow you down, doesn't matter. And BB is the best chess player, playing with a piece on the board no one else has.

    If you paid attention today you saw how often Bill took the checkdown away from rivers to stop drives from continuing. that is rare to see, but knowing rivers he knows he loves the checkdown security blanket or easy te pass. he wouldn't give him either. he forced him to throw the ball downfield to wr all day. one dimensional passing game. i am curious to see his game plan for tyreke hill. but that is the one guy he will try and stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slipknot26 View Post
    Brady had , has and will continue to adjust no matter who the Pats get at WR . He's not had all those All Pro WR's .
    Moss , Gronk , not many other big name options , he just uses every single option to roll into the overall game plan .
    Always the what if but that's not how it works . What if none of them had ever made the NFL ? Crazy argument , I know
    Brady is the GOAT even if our ass is out on the field over the years .
    Morino , you taking the Chefs right ?
    Brady is the man and is legit I don't argue that. It's a team sport though, gotta have blocking up front, running game. WR's that can get open and play calling and a coach.. Tommy has had all of that.. Just saying..

    Good cerebral system they run up NE.. Billy coaches them up for sure..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    What so funny bro?

    You going to tell me Brees isn't an all time great?
    the word was goat. it is a one man conversation. 8 superbowls. it's ridiculous to say aloud. maybe 9. it will never happen again. and the 3 losses in SB took miracle plays. and he's been doing is since 23. he didn't have to grow into being great. he has the clutch gene. Brees is really good, but can't hold Tom's jock.

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    Patriots have been polishing their run game the last few games. Look for them to control the clock and run wild against against a porous Chiefs run defense that ranks near the bottom and better than only the Bengals, Browns, Raiders, Dolphins, and Arizona. Pats averaged 120 rushing yards per game this season. The last 3 games that number is closer to 170 which ranks them 4th over the last month.
    The only way to stop Mahomes and Chiefs offense is by chewing up the clock with a solid running game.
    I gotta go Patriots ML and Under.

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    Brady can win with college players it’s amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdom View Post
    the word was goat. it is a one man conversation. 8 superbowls. it's ridiculous to say aloud. maybe 9. it will never happen again. and the 3 losses in SB took miracle plays. and he's been doing is since 23. he didn't have to grow into being great. he has the clutch gene. Brees is really good, but can't hold Tom's jock.
    The 5 wins were all close as well. Let's not act this guy blew any team out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Bro what you doing?
    hedging....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Game is on the road. I don't care about the home games
    You should. You can’t blame them for being good and not having too play away games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    hedging....
    Out of the Laker Over I hope..

    https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/clevela...rs-2019011313/

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    most times he won with a less talented team. he actually lost with a more talented team twice. Eli is great in superbowls and so is Coughlin against Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Big tuna my ass. He did nothing after Bill b left.
    Lawrence taylor did most of the work if I'm not mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    ugh, don't remind me.. had the chance to take the live under of 224 and didnt. what a fuckin nightmare of a day. can only pray for OT at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    You should. You can’t blame them for being good and not having too play away games.
    No I can't but I gave you their road record and you told me to give you the home one as well which isn't relevant next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    not sure how you hedge out of that one.

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