1. 09-09-18 05:52 PM #1
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    Will Chicago Bears Shock The World Tonight

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  2. 09-09-18 05:53 PM #2
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  3. 09-09-18 06:03 PM #3
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    Bears + the points
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  4. 09-09-18 06:06 PM #4
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    Well I had packers in most my parlays saints riuunedd

    so I say gooooo bears y not
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  5. 09-09-18 06:10 PM #5
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    Bears different team this year.
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  6. 09-09-18 06:18 PM #6
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    Tribusky at lambeau night game
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    Mack at lambeau night game
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    Someone's got to win.
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  9. 09-09-18 07:01 PM #9
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    Trubisky gonna be decent this year, but he's not ready for this game tonight
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    Pack -7
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  11. 09-09-18 07:04 PM #11
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  12. 09-09-18 07:09 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by xraygord View Post
    Someone's got to win.
    Some boys in Cleveland might beg to differ.

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  13. 09-09-18 07:12 PM #13
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    I think Packers roll

    I'm all in on the money line
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  14. 09-09-18 07:14 PM #14
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    Ov 43

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    Need 44, 45 or 46
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  15. 09-09-18 07:17 PM #15
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    Entire sporting world of experts are on the Packers.. As I always say anything can happen in these last late games on Sunday nights... Would not be shocked if the Bears won. Bears always bring the strong defenses and defense wins championships..

    I'm still reluctantly on the Packers myself tonight though.. I believe in AR playing at home.

    Go Pack go!!!!

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  16. 09-09-18 07:27 PM #16
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    I think Rogers is not as good as he used to be obviously still better than the average guy but there are beatable
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    Mack is a beast. They’ll be getting pressure all night.
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  18. 09-09-18 07:36 PM #18
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    Shock the world?
    I would not call Bears beating Pack shocking the world.

    Shock the world would be Douglas over Tyson, 111 game winning (154 game schedule) 1954 Indians getting swept by the New York Giants definitely shocking the world, 1968-1969 Jets shocked the world, but the Bears winning a game 1 against an aging Packer team not shocking the world.

    Bears +7 to cover.
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  19. 09-09-18 07:39 PM #19
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    Great first drive for our new coach. Most excited I’ve been as a bears fan in a while.
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  20. 09-09-18 07:41 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Shock the world?
    I would not call Bears beating Pack shocking the world.

    Shock the world would be Douglas over Tyson, 111 game winning (154 game schedule) 1954 Indians getting swept by the New York Giants definitely shocking the world, 1968-1969 Jets shocked the world, but the Bears winning a game 1 against an aging Packer team not shocking the world.

    Bears +7 to cover.
    I remember when Douglas KO'd Tyson.. That was shocking to see live back in the day.. Odds were insane for Douglas to win on that night as well...

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  21. 09-09-18 08:12 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I remember when Douglas KO'd Tyson.. That was shocking to see live back in the day.. Odds were insane for Douglas to win on that night as well...

    Everybody has a plan until they get hit in the face.
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  22. 09-09-18 08:57 PM #22
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    Sunday night DOG about to hit again.. Nothing new...
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  23. 09-09-18 09:06 PM #23
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    Coach is sharp!
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  24. 09-09-18 09:20 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Sunday night DOG about to hit again.. Nothing new...
    My data shows that betting favorites on Sunday night is profitable, as is, over more than a decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    My data shows that betting favorites on Sunday night is profitable, as is, over more than a decade.

    My data shows different when you play the dog and odds on the ML over time..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    My data shows different when you play the dog and odds on the ML over time..
    Disagree Jibbs.

    You may have flawed data, even with prices on the moneyline in variation, you may be off.

    Recent data is worse, but there some winning years around 10 years ago. 2014 and 2015 could have been profitable with good lines. Take out those years from '06-'07 to '10-'11 and it's really bad.

    Not profitable in over a decade, even with upset lines. Last year I have it as 3-12 record and if the Giants hadn't won as nearly +570 upset, it would have been even worse.

    The dog has really fallen off the last 5 years.

    This year might be a good year, for a change.

    Tonight is a good start and appropriate after last year's record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Disagree Jibbs.

    You may have flawed data, even with prices on the moneyline in variation, you may be off.

    Recent data is worse, but there some winning years around 10 years ago. 2014 and 2015 could have been profitable with good lines. Take out those years from '06-'07 to '10-'11 and it's really bad.

    Not profitable in over a decade, even with upset lines. Last year I have it as 3-12 record and if the Giants hadn't won as nearly +570 upset, it would have been even worse.

    The dog has really fallen off the last 5 years.

    This year might be a good year, for a change.

    Tonight is a good start and appropriate after last year's record.
    Final game all major sports on Sunday nights.. Check your data again it's flawed.. Last 10 years..

    I hope I'm wrong tonight with the data though.. Got the Pack..
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  28. 09-09-18 09:54 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Final game all major sports on Sunday nights.. Check your data again it's flawed.. Last 10 years..

    I hope I'm wrong tonight with the data though.. Got the Pack..
    Want me to check using SDQL query to clear up for sure?
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    I'm just looking at the NFL, maybe nobody's data is flawed.

    The NFL has been awful for dogs on Sunday nights.

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  30. 09-09-18 09:57 PM #30
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    There are maybe 30 million people watching this game tonight out of 7 billion. The world will not be shocked if Bears win. It won't even make news outside the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    Want me to check using SDQL query to clear up for sure?
    Turns out we aren't even talking the same data.

    I am skeptical of SDQL, there were potential data validity issues just a few years ago.

    I hope they've gotten better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    There are maybe 30 million people watching this game tonight out of 7 billion. The world will not be shocked if Bears win. It won't even make news outside the US.
    The volume of betting on tonight's game is absolutely huge, from my sources and samples.

    Relatively speaking, Carolina/Dallas was big too, around twice most of the other games, and this one looks to come in about 60% higher than that game.

    Crazy week 1 football bettors.

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    They are going to shock the world
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  34. 09-09-18 10:03 PM #34
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    I’m showing, since 2008.

    Dogs are 50-105-1 straight up on Sunday Night Football. Losing by an average of 5.6 pts. 76-75-5 ATS. 87-66-3 O/U.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    I’m showing, since 2008.

    Dogs are 50-105-1 straight up on Sunday Night Football. Losing by an average of 5.6 pts. 76-75-5 ATS. 87-66-3 O/U.
    Good search.

    The record on the moneyline is useless, it's the ROI on the plays that matter, I think you know that thought, lol.

    That spread record is a losing investment with the vig.

    Just before your search, 06, 07, and 08 were good years for the upset, it made money.

    I think Jibbs was talking about all games on Sunday nights, not just football.
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