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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I think the Ravens took Lamar thinking they could convert him to wideout anyways, but no way he could have done against Alabama what Watson did twice.
    That's fair

    clemson shoulda won those both

    my main argument is how bad flaccooo is

    u put in Lamar it would make them better

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    That's fair

    clemson shoulda won those both

    my main argument is how bad flaccooo is

    u put in Lamar it would make them better
    Flacco can be frustrating in the regular season but he did lead the Ravens to a Super Bowl when the defense was very mediocre and he's still capable with the a solid offensive line and good skill position players. I think Flacco has become the scapegoat for Newsome's failures, the offensive line and skill position talent isn't good enough.

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    Flaccooo sb win is prob the only reason he still has his job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred The Hammer View Post
    Uh-oh......Colts suck!!!! I can't believe how excited people are acting in Indy over this season? Its great to have Luck back and I really like the Reich hire, BUT they're going to have like 35 new guys on the 52 and new systems on both sides of the ball? That takes time....prob 2 years atleast.
    Give luck a above average O-line and they challenge for the playoffs

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    colts bengals play week 4 preseason

    then play week ONE...

    usually, most years... bengals colts play week 4 pre and it's almost always a low scoring game

    now that they will play week ONE... no one will want to show anything

    probably a guaranteed game with 20 pts or less scored

    i kind of want to find a way to put 5k on the under

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron View Post
    colts bengals play week 4 preseason

    then play week ONE...

    usually, most years... bengals colts play week 4 pre and it's almost always a low scoring game

    now that they will play week ONE... no one will want to show anything

    probably a guaranteed game with 20 pts or less scored

    i kind of want to find a way to put 5k on the under
    I would think Brisset gets most of the playing time since they want to trade him with his value at the highest point, who knows what the Bengals will do though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I would think Brisset gets most of the playing time since they want to trade him with his value at the highest point, who knows what the Bengals will do though.
    Hawks wanted him but I guess they didn't strike a deal

    they should prob just keep him in case luck is unlucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I would think Brisset gets most of the playing time since they want to trade him with his value at the highest point, who knows what the Bengals will do though.
    he's already shown enough if he makes some more nice plays in week 3... philip will probably play 3 quarters

    but.. you never know

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    have to admit thomorino is sharp

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I couldn't agree more - the media is afraid to say any black QB isn't an NFL QB because it sounds racist in today's environment, he was horrible against good defenses in college.
    lol we have our differences... but this is about as spot on as spot on gets

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    I don't think Lamar is a bust

    poor mans watson potential
    Laughable - they are nothing similar man - I knew Watson was going be big time - Torch Alabama defense twice - Watson really looks 2 throw first - He can run like A running back - but he also understands that won’t last long in the NFL - 17 pass touchdowns in 7 Games speaks volumes- ( He is the most dynamic young QB in the game )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Laughable - they are nothing similar man - I knew Watson was going be big time - Torch Alabama defense twice - Watson really looks 2 throw first - He can run like A running back - but he also understands that won’t last long in the NFL - 17 pass touchdowns in 7 Games speaks volumes- ( He is the most dynamic young QB in the game )
    Watson's turnover-worthy plays were also through the roof...

    Those TD passes will regress to the mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The J-Dizzle View Post
    Watson's turnover-worthy plays were also through the roof...

    Those TD passes will regress to the mean.
    guy likes to let it rip.. different animal really. no run pass option bullshit. pure passer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The J-Dizzle View Post
    Watson's turnover-worthy plays were also through the roof...

    Those TD passes will regress to the mean.
    Ya that was 1 of his flaws in college - could be corrected as he age / If you look at the Texans points per game with Watson and without him - it’s over 20 points per game diffrence - insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Ya that was 1 of his flaws in college - could be corrected as he age / If you look at the Texans points per game with Watson and without him - it’s over 20 points per game diffrence - insane
    Watson the only one on that team who actually throws the ball downfield. that game against Seattle was arguably the best game of the season including the Super Bowl. its a shame overtime they had the chance to go for it on 4th down and short, bill obrien started bleeding from the pussy and handed the game over to the other side. did it two or three times last year.. he will be the only thing that holds them back, not the roster
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Flacco can be frustrating in the regular season but he did lead the Ravens to a Super Bowl when the defense was very mediocre and he's still capable with the a solid offensive line and good skill position players. I think Flacco has become the scapegoat for Newsome's failures, the offensive line and skill position talent isn't good enough.
    Well in his defense it's hard to put together a great roster when a slightly above average 6'6 mark Sanchez at qb eats up half your cap space

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    Quote Originally Posted by ans61201 View Post
    Well in his defense it's hard to put together a great roster when a slightly above average 6'6 mark Sanchez at qb eats up half your cap space
    Ravens won a super bowl with Flacco leading them, they haven't drafted well the last several years, free agent signings have been poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    guy likes to let it rip.. different animal really. no run pass option bullshit. pure passer.
    Wait a minute. This is not a good thing. He got lucky last year with interceptions. He has to improve this. Remember, even when Watson had his "magical run" before his injury, Texans still only went 3-3. And that was with a QB that was averaging 58 TDs over the season. Does this only concern me? What happens when the TDs drop and the INTs go up?

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    Luck looked ok but you will not win with him anymore

    Flaco always sharp, the kid can just thrown the ball without him 2-14

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    Quote Originally Posted by The J-Dizzle View Post
    Wait a minute. This is not a good thing. He got lucky last year with interceptions. He has to improve this. Remember, even when Watson had his "magical run" before his injury, Texans still only went 3-3. And that was with a QB that was averaging 58 TDs over the season. Does this only concern me? What happens when the TDs drop and the INTs go up?
    he was never the reason they lost. yes a few int's but you have to stretch the ball down the field or you'll be left with some Alex smith type of scrub. you can improve on INT's... you can't grow a pair of balls for someone to teach them to throw the ball over 10 yards downfield. All assuming Bill Obrien learns how to put a damn game away when he has to rather than give the ball back to the other team with 2:00 left down 2...what a clown.

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    Have a feeling Luck is never going to be the same.

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