[A4K]

Nothing lasts forever, but it seems no matter how many draft pics they get, they still end up being the same ole sorry ass browns. I though they might be better after week one when they almost beat Pitt at home. (they covered). But that game at home vs green bay really pissed me off.

[2daBank]

I think that is the way to go to get better quicker but im not a big fan of Cousins but im also not a big fan of these QB coming out. Going that way is basically getting two number ones for the price of one. I think they are gonna be pressured to draft a quarterback. I would keep building. If im the browns i might trade down a few spots and take Barkley and than try to trade up and get Baker. All this Baker hate has to do with people comparing him to Johnny football. Johnny had the talent but a two cent brain. Mayfield will make it in this league unless he is another guy that likes the drinky

I absolutely think mayfield a bust waiting to happen, I agree it unfair and not great comparison to Johnny fb tho. My doubts about him are based off what I've seen from him alone not anyone else.

1st off let me say he was a great college qb and I'm not trying to take anything away from that, that is a unbelievable accomplishment for anyone let alone a guy who wasn't highly regarded out of high school and walked on! That said being a great college qb has never proven to be a indicator of NFL success, plenty of examples of great college guys who couldn't get it done on next level, just as plenty of guys who weren't great in college who's games got way better in NFL.

I'm always skeptical of big 12 and especially sooner qb's, they are set up to succeed at the college level, great talent around them, very friendly offense that allows for easy reads, wide open guys, lot of rac yards, and get to face a lot of terrible defenses in that conf!! Couldn't begin to tell ya how pissed I was rams drafted Bradford #1 as I thought his numbers were absolutely a product of surrounding talent and system.

When I watch baker I don't see a NFL arm, I don't see a guy who gonna have those windows he had in college. As much as I agree the Johnny fb comp is unfair I think it equally ridiculous the baker supporters compare him to brees and Wilson simply cause their height and they have ability to find those windows to throw with smarts or athletic ability. I don't believe he has brees smarts/pocket mastery or Wilson's athleticism. Back to the arm I just don't see his passes holding up in cold windy stadiums in the afc north!

Again not comparing to Johnny but I disagree about "Manzel having the talent" , he didn't have the talent to be NFL qb, being a jack off might have been what kept him from having a chance but his size and game were never gonna translate to a 16 gm NFL season and neither does bakers imo. Mayfield being much more dedicated will have him sticking around as a backup but no more, I actually think chase daniel is a pretty good comp.

[johnnyvegas13]

Cousins said he wants a chance to be in the playoffs right away so he is not going to the Browns and I am surprised the Jets have such low odds for his potential landing spot.

Kirk Cousins Team at Start of 2018 Regular Season
08:00 AM	99701	Broncos		+150
99702	Cardinals		+800
99703	Jets		+275
99704	Browns		+400
99705	Bills		+1400
99706	Jaguars		+600
99707	Dolphins		+2000
99708	Giants		+2000
99709	Vikings		+1200

Broncos are chalky but that is probably where he goes, although Jaguars and Vikings are intriguing.

Exactly

ty lt

I don't know why guys can't see this coming

[MoonPond]

I really like the Bills at +1400. I don't see them sticking with Tyrod as their 2018 starter.

Their cap space will make it hard to compete for Cousins.. I can see it if they attempt a 1-year deal and lace it with heavy playoff incentives.

[LT Profits]

I really like the Bills at +1400. I don't see them sticking with Tyrod as their 2018 starter.

Their cap space will make it hard to compete for Cousins.. I can see it if they attempt a 1-year deal and lace it with heavy playoff incentives.

Bills are like +4000 in SBR Book, send it in!

[LT Profits]

Bills are like +4000 in SBR Book, send it in!

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post27562100

[MoonPond]

Got in at 4000+, 428 to win 17,000 something.