1. 09-21-17 10:50 PM #1
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    NFL lines aren't sharp?

    Lol. More proof that books always know. Line was-2 and went to-2.5 then to-3. Just give up. You can't get any sharper
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  2. 09-21-17 10:58 PM #2
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    Easy cash SF/Over
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  3. 09-21-17 11:00 PM #3
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    Total was sharp
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  4. 09-21-17 11:01 PM #4
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    I nailed the over paco. Congrats on the parlay. Surprised you bet a parlay lol
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  5. 09-21-17 11:01 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyb25 View Post
    Total was sharp
    No one cares about things that seaweed covers
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    It's sick.
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  7. 09-21-17 11:03 PM #7
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    no lines can be sharp - only bettors can.
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  8. 09-21-17 11:04 PM #8
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    as if one game would prove anything, line could have still been off by 10 points.
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  9. 09-21-17 11:05 PM #9
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    i went all-in on the 9ers +3 -115

    just won 40k

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  10. 09-21-17 11:08 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayc88 View Post
    as if one game would prove anything, line could have still been off by 10 points.
    Ask Sam Odom.
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  11. 09-21-17 11:09 PM #11
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    hell ya - lines mean squat - its just an educated guess - linesmakers are 100 percent comparable to weathermen - they are somewhat close - but every second guess is off somewhere( total or sides)
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  12. 09-21-17 11:09 PM #12
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    Eh not sure I agree. What else would this line have been? Divisional game, early in the season, neither team highly regarded. SF would have never been favored here in this spot. You're not going to say this Ram team this early in the the year is a 5+ point favorite against many teams on the road, let alone a divison rival. Just don't think it took any genius to assume that this would be a close game
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  13. 09-21-17 11:23 PM #13
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    This game the perfect example of when you make a play make sure you get the best line you can with the team you are betting.
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  14. 09-21-17 11:32 PM #14
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    come on guise...you all should know better by now...Vegas and books put out numbers to draw action on both sides (fav and dog) and to get a 50/50 split on all action...it's us gamblers (sharps, squares, the public, pro's, recreationals, etc.) who then influence and move the number depending on how much action comes in on a certain team, then the line gets adjusted accordingly to get action on the other side....
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  15. 09-21-17 11:57 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by pattymayo View Post
    Eh not sure I agree. What else would this line have been? Divisional game, early in the season, neither team highly regarded. SF would have never been favored here in this spot. You're not going to say this Ram team this early in the the year is a 5+ point favorite against many teams on the road, let alone a divison rival. Just don't think it took any genius to assume that this would be a close game
    Yeah no way. If this was the first game of the season the 49ers would have been -3 most likely.
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  16. 09-22-17 12:18 AM #16
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  17. 09-22-17 12:30 AM #17
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    "Yeah no way. If this was the first game of the season the 49ers would have been -3 most likely."

    yup
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  18. 09-22-17 01:52 AM #18
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    Vegas got killed last year by favorite and overs - their lines have not been good the last year at all.
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  19. 09-22-17 05:15 AM #19
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    almost every line is sharp the last 7 years or so

    It is why everyone loses
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  20. 09-22-17 07:37 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by bozeman View Post
    hell ya - lines mean squat - its just an educated guess - linesmakers are 100 percent comparable to weathermen - they are somewhat close - but every second guess is off somewhere( total or sides)
    Lines are not a predicted outcome of a game but rather a number to create equal action on both sides
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  21. 09-22-17 07:41 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    Lines are not a predicted outcome of a game but rather a number to create equal action on both sides
    agreed
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  22. 09-22-17 07:53 AM #22
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    Most games do not have equal action

    square 101 thinking that
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  23. 09-22-17 08:07 AM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Most games do not have equal action

    square 101 thinking that
    Exactly. Not sure why people don't get that books don't solely move lines because of money. If you don't see what happened with this line then not much to tell you.
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  24. 09-22-17 08:10 AM #24
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    laker , were you drinking last night when you posted this
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  25. 09-22-17 09:52 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Most games do not have equal action

    square 101 thinking that
    I did not say that games have equal action, I said lines were created to to obtain that. Most games do not have equal action, the books don't need that in reality.
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  26. 09-22-17 09:57 AM #26
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    The O/U missed by 39 points. Not very sharp there. In fact, there has been less than a 2% chance that an NFL game will end up >36 points over the spread. There might be one game a year.
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  27. 09-22-17 05:11 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    laker , were you drinking last night when you posted this
    Sammy I don't drink anymore. The lol part is that you bet Rams-2.5. You hear me?
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  28. 09-22-17 08:06 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Exactly. Not sure why people don't get that books don't solely move lines because of money. If you don't see what happened with this line then not much to tell you.
    Laker if there is conspiracy in sports - it is surely not around NFL - and teams DEFINITELY don't rig games to a single exact point. Win/loss I believe but spread is a hoax.
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  29. 09-22-17 08:24 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by bozeman View Post
    Laker if there is conspiracy in sports - it is surely not around NFL - and teams DEFINITELY don't rig games to a single exact point. Win/loss I believe but spread is a hoax.
    Never said anything about a conspiracy. I said the line was sharp. That a fact
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  30. 09-22-17 08:30 PM #30
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    Nobody is smarter than the oddsmaker put that on your door
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  31. 10-02-17 11:30 PM #31
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    Um yeah
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  32. 10-03-17 05:32 AM #32
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    Laker nobody wins

    I have been saying it for 10 years now
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  33. 10-03-17 09:25 AM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Laker nobody wins

    I have been saying it for 10 years now
    Essentially. I'd argue 5-15% of bettors win depending on the year.
    Vegas wins the same way Wall St. does, people are greedy and have no discipline.
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  34. 10-04-17 05:13 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryermkd View Post

    Essentially. I'd argue 5-15% of bettors win depending on the year.
    Vegas wins the same way Wall St. does, people are greedy and have no discipline.

    Agreed, betting sports is the closet thing you can get to trading in the stock market without actually trading lol
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  35. 10-04-17 05:15 PM #35
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    No pick is every for sure, just like no trade is for sure all you can do is find as much information on the stock/game as possible and from there try to determine who has better chance and then go for it by placing the bet.
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