[steve18]

Good analysis on the Raiders possible move to Vegas below. Would you go to Vegas more if the NFL was there?
http://www.cyinterview.com/2017/01/r...t-down-for-us/

[BigdaddyQH]

Vegas is the big winner here. Plenty of major Corperations will buy season tickets and give them away to various people for various reasons. They will also be able to use the facility for numerous concerts and other events. The NFL can make all the noise it wants, but they dare not refuse this move. They have already lost that battle in court years ago. It will give AFC West fans an excuse to follow their team on a road game.

[GTOGoat]

Good Read

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/1...and-wont-stop/

[gauchojake]

Adelson Pulled Out
Chump

Actually glad the Chargers exercised their option in LA now otherwise the Raiders would have 100% been here.

[funnyb25]

1/3 of the investment I think I read earlier. Maybe more

[gauchojake]

I think they have financing in Vegas without him, but it seems like a step backward to me.

[funnyb25]

I think they have financing in Vegas without him, but it seems like a step backward to me.

Has to be a step backwards one would think.

[BigdaddyQH]

I wonder where the additional financing is coming from. Does this open the door for San Antonio if they really want an NFL team there?

[Harry N. Lloyd]

Most road teams traveling to Vegas will probably bring a large following. I would expect the road teams would fill at least half the stadium. The other half? Gang banger Raider fans out of LA, Oakland, and Vegas. It will no doubt be the most hostile, dangerous venue in all the sports world. Fights, stabbings, and murders--that's my prediction.

[jjgold]

Many seats will be emtpy

People cannot afford it

Vegas real high rates Sep-Nov

[Philmill]

Hotels in Vegas want people in there rooms.....

Big winner here if they can get the Raiders in town....

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Raiders games will look like South Central LA. That's assuming they get the votes; only nine owners need to decline.

[recon1]

Vegas too transient of a city and will never have a dedicated fan base, same thing with the Chargers moving to LA. LA could and would support the Rams, but the Chargers and now Raiders potentially moving to Vegas proves Goodell is as stupid as he sounds.

[GTOGoat]

Not so fast!
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...es-involvement

[gauchojake]

Now the Oakland contingent with Lott and Peete might have a shot keeping them up north.

[Sam Odom]

Not so fast!
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...es-involvement

San Diego Raiders

[Notorious_Donk]

Wouldnt really be a factor for me

Still gonna go the same amount. Maybe take an extra trip to watch the Packers but that only happens so often

[GTOGoat]

very possible

[BigdaddyQH]

The question now becomes who in their right mind would want to stay in the Arsehole of California known as Oakland?

[jjgold]

Vegas too transient of a city and will never have a dedicated fan base, same thing with the Chargers moving to LA. LA could and would support the Rams, but the Chargers and now Raiders potentially moving to Vegas proves Goodell is as stupid as he sounds.

thread over and VERY VERY POOR CITY

[Notorious_Donk]

Raiders wont have a home game all season

[CWD]

they tried to pull one over on the city and looks like vegas had enough of it

[BigdaddyQH]

San Diego Raiders

I will bet you any amount you want (or have in your case) that the Raiders do not move to San Diego within the next 5 years.

[CWD]

goldman sachs supposedly out - looks like the vegas deal is toast

[jjgold]

its over

I think best too..would of failed because of City in

[Mr KLC]

If the Raiders can't get things worked out in Las Vegas, the team might have a relocation option that doesn't involve returning to Oakland.

Apparently, the city of San Diego has some potential interest in getting the Raiders to fill the void that was left by the Chargers when they officially decided to move to Los Angeles on Jan. 12.

San Diego hasn't been hiding its interest in the Raiders, either. After the Chargers announced their move, city councilman Scott Sherman was asked if San Diego would consider pursuing the Raiders.

"Sure. If that Vegas deal falls through, they could own California here," Sherman told XTRA 1360 in San Diego on Jan. 12.
At the time, the comment didn't get much attention because it didn't look like there was any way the Raiders deal was going to fall through in Vegas. After all, the Raiders had just met with the NFL's stadium and finance committee to present their plan on how the $1.9 billion stadium in Vegas would be built. A few days after that meeting the Raiders officially filed for relocation.
At the time, a Raiders move almost felt like a done deal, but that's not the case anymore due to the fact that billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson has backed out of the deal. Adelson was expected to add up to $650 million to the stadium project in Nevada, which leaves a gaping hole in the Raiders' stadium finance plan.
The team had planned to bring in Goldman Sachs to fill the $650 million void, but the financing company reportedly wants nothing to do with the project now that Adelson's out, which brings us back to San Diego.
Not only did councilman Sherman say that the Raiders might be a possibility, but San Diego mayor Kevin Faulconer also appears to be interested in getting Oakland's team to move to San Diego. According to the San Diego Union Tribune, Faulconer has let the NFL know that the city would like to "engage" with the Raiders about relocation at the appropriate time.

In Vegas, the Raiders and NFL were going to contribute a total of $500 million to the project, however, that number could potentially jump to $600 million if the league really wants to help San Diego get a team back. When the Rams moved to Los Angeles in January 2016, the NFL offered a $300 million loan to both San Diego and Oakland if they were able to figure out a stadium deal with the Chargers and Raiders. That was $100 million above the usual $200 million that the league generally offers when a city is looking to build a new stadium.

Before the Chargers left, the city tentatively put together a plan that included a $375 million contribution from a combination of entities that include the city of San Diego, San Diego County and San Diego State University, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

If you combined that money with the $300 million that the NFL has already pledged toward a San Diego stadium, and another potential $300 million from the Raiders, that puts $975 million toward a stadium. The deal would still need an additional $100 million to $175 million, but it's not impossible.

The reason this plan didn't work for the Chargers is because the plan was based on building a stadium in Mission Valley, where Qualcomm Stadium currently sits. The Chargers wanted nothing to do with the plan because they were hoping to build a stadium in downtown San Diego.

If Raiders owner Mark Davis loses his big gamble in Vegas, and still can't get a stadium deal done in Oakland, it wouldn't be crazy to think that he might start looking at San Diego, especially considering how popular the Raiders are in Southern California. It's a long shot that they'll end up in San Diego, but with Davis and the Raiders, pretty much anything's a possibility until a deal actually gets done somewhere.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/sa...medium=twitter

[Sam Odom]

San Diego Raiders