[kidthrillz]

And everyone across the street on cincy.....

[Eddy Munny]

Comparing 4th and 1 on the 20 to 2 point conversion acidnine. Less room at goal line. Looked it up and Patriots less then 20% on 2 point conversion since it was established. 18 % even more reason to not go for it but do agree it was ballsy and so was calling a pass in Super Bowl at 1 yard line. How did that work out? Carroll is like you he gets ahead of himself. Hell he wants to gamble with bad odds come to Vegas.

You're right. Comparing the two scenarios is asinine, because going for it on 4th and 1 at your own 20 is far more "stupid" than what Carroll did last night. Bottom line is both coaches have eschewed convention at times, but have worked it to their advantage far more often than not. That's why both are SB champions.