[packerd_00]

this is all speculation, maybe rogers could be as successful with bellichek as brady is, or maybe he wouldnt be

maybe without brady bellichek would have won nothing

its all speculation

the only fact that we know for sure is that brady is insane at qb



although i guess we'll find out at some point, brady is 39 and sooner or later he will retire, then we'll see if belichek will replicate his success without brady

True enough but honestly I hate calling anyone a goat,because so many different circumstances come into play. Don't matter what the Sport.

Its all matter of opinion when it comes down to it.

[Sam Odom]

Cant argue Facts - Brady's Stats

In the end... that is really all we have

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Sammy I opened thread against my better judgment and I am steaming mad.

[marcoloco]

Cant argue with the number or results. But lots of credit to the team as well. Even when Brady is out they are still great. Excellent coach, system and players. Props to the entire Pats organization and team. They are definitely the best managed team of the last two decades and probably of all time.

[Sam Odom]

MO ... believe Sammy next time

[packerd_00]

Cant argue Facts - Brady's Stats

In the end... that is really all we have

Hey Sam atleast you are mature enough to debate,I cant stand talking to certain fan boys though.

[Sam Odom]

there are always a lot of 'IFs' debating Sport Stars

example

MLB Season HR leaders

Babe Ruth , Hank Aaron , the McGwire/Sosa race

all kinds of arguments can be made to credit or discredit

[packerd_00]

Without Scotty Bowman would the Redwings have become a Dynasty or would Mario have won the Cup twice.

[44 Mag]

matt cassell went 10-6 and missed the playoffs with the same team that brady went 18-1 with and was one play away from winning the superbowl a year earlier

this season without brady at home pats didnt score a single point against the bills, but away to the same team with brady 2 weeks later the pats scored 41 points

tom brady goat, and soon to be 5x SB winner

The Pat's went 11-5 that year & did not make the playoffs.....

[44 Mag]

there are always a lot of 'IFs' debating Sport Stars

example

MLB Season HR leaders

Babe Ruth , Hank Aaron , the McGwire/Sosa race

all kinds of arguments can be made to credit or discredit

They should break it down by ERA played in, like you just did. Ruth dead ball era, and nobody hit homers. Hank, never even hit 50 homers once, and set the record, the other two, well, I will leave that to someone smarter than me, but, I don't count them, and neither does the Hall apparently.