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The average NFL team wins 14% more of their games at home than they do on the road. This is a statistical fact that you can check, like I just did, at the NFL website.

Now let's look at how the Pats perform at home vs on the road. Since 2009, when Brady returned from his injury, the Pats have gone 50-7 in all home games (including the postseason, but not the preseason). That's a win rate of 88%. In their road games over the same period and same criteria (including superbowls which are neutral site) the Pats have gone 30-21, which is a 59% win rate. So the difference in win rate for the Pats between road and home games is a staggering 29% versus the league average of 14%. And this makes sense for a team that would cheat. At home, they control the security to the visitors locker rooms, and the conditions in the stadium. I.e., while the NFL may control the headset equipment and service provider, the Pats control the frequencies in the stadium that are used by that equipment. I could easily jam any signal at my house with a simple Radio Shack white-out box for $35.

And before you call me a conspiracy theorist..... I remind you of this:
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...having-p2.html

[R.P. McMurphy]

Or could it be they are just good? Forget league average it means Jack squat comparing Pats to Raiders/Jags etc. Bet if you were to just focus on their contemporaries at about same level you would see it's about same. Check on Pack at home and Peytons teams during same period. Or throw in Saints from Katrina up till season before last. Absolute home dominance which means they cheat too? Nice digging but proves nothing just more arbitrary b.s.

[paco]

Golden state warriors cheat at oracle according to this theory.

[Machine Choice]

Or could it be they are just good? Forget league average it means Jack squat comparing Pats to Raiders/Jags etc. Bet if you were to just focus on their contemporaries at about same level you would see it's about same. Check on Pack at home and Peytons teams during same period. Or throw in Saints from Katrina up till season before last. Absolute home dominance which means they cheat too? Nice digging but proves nothing just more arbitrary b.s.

Packers, Saints and Peyton Manning Colts relied on unique circumstances for home field advantage that they adjusted to and could exploit: Packers = brutal cold, Saints/Colts/Falcons = Dome-field advantage with Dome QBs. The Patriots play in a standard stadium with no unique characteristics. The fact that they DOUBLE the typical home field advantage is inexplicable except for cheating.

[POOLSIDE]

Seahawks are the ultimate cheaters!

[R.P. McMurphy]

Just breaking out shovel for me digging looks like to me. Playing up in NE during winter months not exactly sunny resort type weather. Did you bother accounting for the div they play in has been on full tilt stink level or mediocre at best past decade+? Fact is every team cheats and media just having fun with some of you buying this garbage lol. How bout Atl they just got busted for cheating at home yet NOBODY talks about it? Why? Cause unlike Pats they haven't accomplished anything and are nobodies.

[Machine Choice]

Just breaking out shovel for me digging looks like to me. Playing up in NE during winter months not exactly sunny resort type weather. Did you bother accounting for the div they play in has been on full tilt stink level or mediocre at best past decade+? Fact is every team cheats and media just having fun with some of you buying this garbage lol. How bout Atl they just got busted for cheating at home yet NOBODY talks about it? Why? Cause unlike Pats they haven't accomplished anything and are nobodies.

I haven't run the numbers for all teams since 2009, and won't. But it would be safe bet that the Patriots lead the entire NFL with a 29% home/away win-loss differential over multiple years of data. Coincidence? Nothing is a coincidence with Bill Belichik. I don't even necessarily have a problem with it. I say just bet the Patriots at home any chance you get. If they're gonna cheat, then we should profit off it.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Well call it what you want but fact is teams I mentioned in those eras probably register right around Pats for home dominance and someone mentioned Seahags even who went undefeated like 2 years at home? Million variables to look at but if you stink you stink bottom line. For instance despite how about Bears? Soldier not a fun place to play with weather much like Lambeau but I guarantee every team in league would rather play them at home right now than go to GB. Doubt any good team right now is saying Fukk we got play the Bears next wk in their house count that a loss. Lol

[BeanTownClown88]

When Brady can run an offense in his sleep..the team will kick ass at home.

[DOM-Ganador]

Old Boston Garden. Visitors locker room. Basically a Viet Cong prison cell.

Everything that is being done today has been around forever.

[44 Mag]

How exactly to the Patriots control the conditions in the stadium??? It is an open air stadium with no roof??? I suppose they control the climate and dictate the weather??? Bill B. has the wind blow in his direction, upon his wishes.What a stupid statement to make. See Post #1. The OP is obviously another Patriots hater. Then bet against them.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

How about Seattle at home?

[R.P. McMurphy]

Hey Dom remember when Celts air went out "mysteriously" in a playoff gm vs LAL in 80's? It's all been done and I've heard every story under the sun. They ALL cheat weather it be a team conspiracy or individuals taking exception to the "integrity" of the gm haha. Hell nba players cheat every night just with flopping for starters.

[Machine Choice]

How exactly to the Patriots control the conditions in the stadium??? It is an open air stadium with no roof??? I suppose they control the climate and dictate the weather??? Bill B. has the wind blow in his direction, upon his wishes.What a stupid statement to make. See Post #1. The OP is obviously another Patriots hater. Then bet against them.

1. I don't hate or like any NFL team. My only interest is betting. If the Pats are cheating, then I say use that info to make money.

2. The Patriots control the conditions in their stadium, not the weather. I'm talking about facilities and equipment.

3. I challenge any poster on this site to find a team that, over a 6-YEAR PERIOD, won 29% or more games at home than they did on the road. If you can, then good job.

4. Obviously there is something to my theory because the NFL announced today that it is officially looking into the headset issue at Gillette Stadium, since the Steelers are the fifth team to raise this issue.

[SharpAngles]

Every NFL team does these things at home. Atlanta just got fined and lost a draft pick for artificial crowd noise in the dome. Ask Bill Parcells how his communications worked when he played against Bill Walsh in the 80s.

I'll go out on a limb and say the Pats home record has a lot to do with them being the most dominant franchise for over a decade

[terrortwylight]

1. I don't hate or like any NFL team. My only interest is betting. If the Pats are cheating, then I say use that info to make money.

2. The Patriots control the conditions in their stadium, not the weather. I'm talking about facilities and equipment.

3. I challenge any poster on this site to find a team that, over a 6-YEAR PERIOD, won 29% or more games at home than they did on the road. If you can, then good job.

4. Obviously there is something to my theory because the NFL announced today that it is officially looking into the headset issue at Gillette Stadium, since the Steelers are the fifth team to raise this issue.

Exactly.

[Machine Choice]

I'll go out on a limb and say the Pats home record has a lot to do with them being the most dominant franchise for over a decade

Well it appears that their dominance is isolated to home games, since their road win percentage is only 59% over the last 6 years. That equates to a 7-5 record over 12 games. That's not dominant. Why do they only dominate at home? The answer is Bill Belichik.

[44 Mag]

[QUOTE=Machine Choice;24491877]Well it appears that their dominance is isolated to home games, since their road win percentage is only 59% over the last 6 years. That equates to a 7-5 record over 12 games. That's not dominant. Why do they only dominate at home?[/QUOTE]

Why does Seattle the last few years. And GB forever???? You know something pal, I have followed the Pat's for over 50 years. I was there when they were 1-15, and 2-14 and all the bullshit years. Since Brady came along and developed rather quickly into the star that he is, and the Sullivan family finally sold the team and eventually Kraft took over, that is when they developed a decent franchise, now they are one of the better teams in the league and called Cheaters. LOL. NOBODY was a bigger cheater than JOHN MADDEN coached teams, nobody, and he makes millions from his video games.

[Machine Choice]

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Well it appears that their dominance is isolated to home games, since their road win percentage is only 59% over the last 6 years. That equates to a 7-5 record over 12 games. That's not dominant. Why do they only dominate at home?[/QUOTE]

Why does Seattle the last few years. And GB forever???? You know something pal, I have followed the Pat's for over 50 years. I was there when they were 1-15, and 2-14 and all the bullshit years. Since Brady came along and developed rather quickly into the star that he is, and the Sullivan family finally sold the team and eventually Kraft took over, that is when they developed a decent franchise, now they are one of the better teams in the league and called Cheaters. LOL. NOBODY was a bigger cheater than JOHN MADDEN coached teams, nobody, and he makes millions from his video games.

I'm not arguing that other teams don't cheat. I'm simply confirming that the Patriots definitely do. Some people actually deny that.

[44 Mag]

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I'm not arguing that other teams don't cheat. I'm simply confirming that the Patriots definitely do. Some people actually deny that.

Hey brother, it's obvious nobody is going to change your mind, it's your opinion and you are more than entitled to it. I have some MLB games to get ready for and then continue to look at NFL for Sunday. I wish you success this season and hope you enjoy the games. Feel free to check in on my thread if you like, I always enjoy the company AND the give and take we all share.

[Machine Choice]

[QUOTE=44 Mag;24491967]

Hey brother, it's obvious nobody is going to change your mind, it's your opinion and you are more than entitled to it. I have some MLB games to get ready for and then continue to look at NFL for Sunday. I wish you success this season and hope you enjoy the games. Feel free to check in on my thread if you like, I always enjoy the company AND the give and take we all share.

I lost $2,700 in baseball this year, so I am punishing myself by not allowing myself to bet football this year. I won't wager again until Jan 2016. Good luck.

[DOM-Ganador]

Hey Dom remember when Celts air went out "mysteriously" in a playoff gm vs LAL in 80's? It's all been done and I've heard every story under the sun. They ALL cheat weather it be a team conspiracy or individuals taking exception to the "integrity" of the gm haha. Hell nba players cheat every night just with flopping for starters.

Mac. Jabbar on the bench ,head between his legs,sucking on an air tank. Then to top it off, the Lakers knew they were getting the ice cold showers to end the night.

Another classic is pulling the fire alarm around 3:30 AM at the visiting teams hotel.

[Calgunner23]

$2,700? That's the reason I didn't bet MLB past the 2nd week of the season. With multiple games daily, I knew I would get in trouble pretty quickly. Closed my account in May or June and just re-opened it last week.

Good for you for having the discipline to pump the breaks. I know it was hard for me to stop.

I read somewhere that 93% of gamblers lose money every year. Anyone have an opinion on that statement? Just curious..

[leetreaper]

Dumbfukk of the month, hands down