[Seaweed]

They are going nowhere. I repeat nowhere. MAX 5 wins. Just skip the year

[jjgold]

Yes Johnny Football

I will watch

[existential]

They are going nowhere. I repeat nowhere. MAX 5 wins. Just skip the year

do you really think you're going out on a limb here? they're going to be atrocious on offense while the defense keeps them close until they eventually wear down.

they don't have a single QB on their roster who will be with the team 2 years from now. their RB's are below average and their WR's are beyond laughable.

they have zero shot at even being a .500 team within the next 3 years minimum. this is a horrific franchise, everyone knows that.. enough already.

[Seaweed]

do you really think you're going out on a limb here? they're going to be atrocious on offense while the defense keeps them close until they eventually wear down.

they don't have a single QB on their roster who will be with the team 2 years from now. their RB's are below average and their WR's are beyond laughable.

they have zero shot at even being a .500 team within the next 3 years minimum. this is a horrific franchise, everyone knows that.. enough already.

Great post

[jjgold]

I say 5-11

But who cares

Cleve is football

[brooks85]

lol I was looking for a thread from this preseason but this works too

• 9 Nov 6 1:00PMEST ) Cowboys
  
• 10 Nov 10 8:25PMEST , AT Ravens
  
• 11 Nov 20 1:00PMEST * Steelers
  
• 12 Nov 27 1:00PMEST ) Giants
  
• 13 BYE
  
• 14 Dec 11 1:00PMEST * Bengals
  
• 15 Dec 18 1:00PMEST * AT Bills
  
• 16 Dec 24 1:00PMEST * Chargers
  
• 17 Jan 1 1:00PMEST * AT Steelers
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Will they probably win at least one of those? Yes but sitting here today trying to pick which one is throwing darts. There is no reason to think they will beat any of those teams.
  
  
  
  Cleveland might have 2 World Champions and 0-16 where it counts
  
  

[PorkChop]

Watch them 'shockingly' beat Dallas this Sunday.

Need some more Romo's cries..

[Mr KLC]

Hue Jackson's decision to bench rookie starting quarterback Cody Kessler in the second half of the Browns' loss in Baltimore on Thursday night has heightened tension between the front office and coaching staff, according to sources with knowledge of the situation. With the team inching closer to an 0-16 season, more change seems inevitable.

At the very least, sources say defensive coordinator Ray Horton is facing a very uncertain future, with his unit allowing more than 30 points per game, and changes could be far more sweeping. Horton is a very unpopular pick in various quadrants of the organization to return as defensive coordinator but is supported staunchly by Jackson. Sources said owner Jimmy Haslam, along with his wife Dee, has become increasingly hands on, with many departments essentially reporting directly to his family. It was Haslam who ultimately decided to hire Jackson and sign off on Horton as coordinator, despite strong reservations expressed by others.

The dynamic between the personnel department and coaching staff -- regularly fissured throughout Haslam's various management regimes -- again is a concern to many in the organization, with Kessler's benching raising eyebrows. Given Haslam's propensity for wholesale changes, increasingly lopsided recent defeats and the fact Cleveland has won three games since Thanksgiving of 2014, trepidation is mounting that another shake-up awaits as the winless franchise must start preparing season-ticket invoices for 2017.

Morale is low, even by Browns standards, and with 10-or-so departments reporting directly to ownership and without the presence of a strong team president providing leadership, the hands-on approach of the Haslams is causing concern throughout the organization.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/te...nge-is-feared/

[Smoke]

Yes Johnny Football

I will watch

[xdodger19]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5-iJUuPWis

[Mr KLC]

[Stallion]

They are playing for the 1st pick in the draft next year.

[jjgold]

great call seaweed

[Seaweed]

great call seaweed

Thanks

Hopefully poster of month within reach

[irish1]

coaching staff in it's entirety needs to go after the season and I mean everyone. The one game they had in the bag was against the Jets, 20-7 at the half. Needless to say they lost 31-28. Hue Jackson should have been canned after that game. RG3 was the first mistake! funny thing is they do have talent like Terrelle Pryor and Cory Coleman are a good pair of receivers. Crowell is a good runner, so offense has decent ingredients except for QB. Hey their offense has scored more points than the Jets. They need QB, offensive line and defense to go with a new coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, defensive backs coach, special teams coach, qb coach and then were talking. Is that too much to ask for?

[Seaweed]

Thats true

[Richkas]

Their quarterbacks are tackling dummies...they are a horrible team...but their coach is safe one more year believe it or not...I heard that on the radio