[The Kraken]

Hell Yes they should!

Money means nothing to these guys.

If they win the SB, they could care less about next years draft picks.

Nothing penalty is stiff enough except taking away the win

Fukking cheats

[The Kraken]

They fukking have to

What's next?

Golfers using clubs and balls made out of materials not approved for play and hitting the ball 700 yards?

Smaller hoops for the away teams?

Baseballs filled with lead?

Integrity above all.

[Kermit]

I have to be honest, before this debacle, I was under the impression that the league supplied balls for both of the teams that were up to the exact specs. I mean what the fukk is this? Sunday softball league where the home teams supplies the balls?

[odog11]

They fukking have to

What's next?

Golfers using clubs and balls made out of materials not approved for play and hitting the ball 700 yards?

Smaller hoops for the away teams?

Baseballs filled with lead?

Integrity above all.

And whenever a team wins and a player was taking illegal substances those wins should be taken away too? If they really tried to catch the cheaters and enforce those rules every team would be 0-0.

[Seaweed]

Deflated or not deflated pats would of won

[frostno98]

Billicheat should be suspended like Sean Payton next season.

[The Kraken]

odog you certainly make a valid point and i think there is a big grey area in how to handle all the situations but individual players are different for one major reason

They're represented by the union and the NFL and players union have agreed upon a set protocol when penalizing players. The league doesn't have a lot of wiggle room with players

But I'm not sure this falls into that category. This is an entire organization cheating the system.

For some reason, it just seems so much worse that a player using steroids. And trust me, I understand the concept that both provide a competitive advantage

But still, this just seems less palatable

[The Kraken]

Deflated or not deflated pats would of won

If true, then why deflate the balls at all? They weren't sure they were going to win.

Either way, it's irrelevant as that's not the point

[Seaweed]

I agree

Colts should be awarded win

[The Kraken]

I'm writing Stephen A Smith right now

[odog11]

odog you certainly make a valid point and i think there is a big grey area in how to handle all the situations but individual players are different for one major reason

They're represented by the union and the NFL and players union have agreed upon a set protocol when penalizing players. The league doesn't have a lot of wiggle room with players

But I'm not sure this falls into that category. This is an entire organization cheating the system.

For some reason, it just seems so much worse that a player using steroids. And trust me, I understand the concept that both provide a competitive advantage

But still, this just seems less palatable

I agree, if it is proven(or Goodell just feels like it is close enough) NFL can do whatever they want, as they do with the players outside conduct suspensions. Not sure how this will play out, but first round pick likely the harshest this can get. Patriots probably found some way to deflate the balls that was not specified in the rules anyways, dry ice or something smaht like that.

[The Kraken]

I agree, if it is proven(or Goodell just feels like it is close enough) NFL can do whatever they want, as they do with the players outside conduct. Not sure how this will play out, but first round pick likely the harshest this can get. Patriots probably found some way to deflate the balls that was not specified in the rules anyways, dry ice or something smaht like that.

Ya, I expect a hefty, hefty fine against the organization, draft picks taken away and probably Bellicheck suspended some of next season as Frosty said.

I think the fallout from this is going to be huge.

They would never take away the win however because setting that precedent would be one hell of a slippery slope. Teams would be arguing missed holding calls late in a game affected the outcome and would argue the league should throw out the win.

So I cannot foresee the NFL every taking away a win in a situation like this but the penalty will be harsh.

This is all assuming that 11/12 balls on the Colts sidelines weren't underinflated.

Cold weather has a way of decreasing pressures in a fixed volume space. I don't know much about the process of where the balls are kept or if they're reassessed for pressures throughout the game.

[Seaweed]

I think the NFL should make the Patriots play with a cooked corn on offense in the Superbowl. Only solution to the problem.

[Killer_Demo]

Fukk you Belicheat & Pats

----Raiders fan

[luvtogamble]

pats just trying to get any advantage they can. did it really help or maybe there were tiny holes in footballs.

[The Kraken]

]I think the NFL should make the Patriots play with a cooked corn on offense in the Superbowl[/B]. Only solution to the problem.

Agree, only real solution

[minet123]

If you ain't cheating you ain't trying

[TheMetsSuck]

didnt both teams get to use the same balls? wheres the advantage?

[DiggityDaggityDo]

didnt both teams get to use the same balls? wheres the advantage?

No. Each team supplies their own balls.

[sneakerhead]

Everyone blowing this out of proportion. Yes they should be fined but refs are to blame as well and so is the league but Goodell wont admit it, they will just fine the Patriots a hefty fine

[BriGuy]

Fukk you Belicheat & Pats

----Raiders fan

Interesting comment from a Raiders fan, considering it was you guys putting helium in kicking balls that led the NFL to adopt the current rule where kicking balls are kept brand new and completely separate.

What this will do is make the NFL make a new rule where all game balls can only be handled by officials and let me tell you something: There are a sh*t ton of QBs pissed at Indy for making a big stink of this. Aaron Rodgers himself admitted he deliberately OVER inflates the balls. But he isn't a Patriots so that doesn't make national headlines. Eli Manning has a routine for game balls so complex, they wrote a NY Times article about it.

[Grits n' Gravy]

Because an under inflated football really helps a team rush for almost 200 yards. Get the fuk out of here with that shit.

Media needs something to fill this 2 week gap and now they have it. Even if it is insignificant.

[Killer_Demo]

Interesting comment from a Raiders fan, considering it was you guys putting helium in kicking balls that led the NFL to adopt the current rule where kicking balls are kept brand new and completely separate.

I think you need to lay off the crack, I think they selling you drywall

[2daBank]

I think you need to lay off the crack, I think they selling you drywall

wigger said what? maybe it the same shit your mother smoked when pregnant with you. that would explain a lot, ya fake ass wanna be thug.. just another dipshit fake gangster that nothing more than a faggy little fanboy living in his mommies basement..

[EaglesPhan36]

Deflated footballs don't get gouged by LaGarette Blount.

[MickeyMan]

wigger said what? maybe it the same shit your mother smoked when pregnant with you. that would explain a lot, ya fake ass wanna be thug.. just another dipshit fake gangster that nothing more than a faggy little fanboy living in his mommies basement..

Bank his mom gave him the boot about 6 months ago. She was sick of a 26 year old man wearing jeans and t-shirts 3 sizes too big.

Embarrassing.

He admitted this on here he's been living under a park bench using the public library computers when he can sneak past the head librarian.

Sadly demo was banned for life after he pissed his baggy jeans during a cold nights sleep, and others in the library complained of the stench.

[PAYTON20]

what a bunch of fukking pussies in the Patriots organization SMH

grow a pair of balls and win a game without trying to cheat by deflating a damn ball

that's gotta be one of the most embarrassing things I've heard lmao

[Killer_Demo]

wigger said what? maybe it the same shit your mother smoked when pregnant with you. that would explain a lot, ya fake ass wanna be thug.. just another dipshit fake gangster that nothing more than a faggy little fanboy living in his mommies basement..

Hey shouldn't you be moving P's of bammer to Oregon? fukkin phony queer

[Killer_Demo]

Bank his mom gave him the boot about 6 months ago. She was sick of a 26 year old man wearing jeans and t-shirts 3 sizes too big.

Embarrassing.

He admitted this on here he's been living under a park bench using the public library computers when he can sneak past the head librarian.

Sadly demo was banned for life after he pissed his baggy jeans during a cold nights sleep, and others in the library complained of the stench.

Says the brokedikk faget who buys 2.89 40 OZ's and who looks like this

[2daBank]

what a bunch of fukking pussies in the Patriots organization SMH

grow a pair of balls and win a game without trying to cheat by deflating a damn ball

that's gotta be one of the most embarrassing things I've heard lmao

no worse than pumping noise int a stadium that was built to amplify noise at a higher level.. answer the question,do you wear a skirt when you cheerlead?

[aston]

Dam media blowing ups things for no reason..patriots destroyed the colts...end of story..elvis has left the buliding

[PAYTON20]

Dam media blowing ups things for no reason..patriots destroyed the colts...end of story..elvis has left the buliding

They still got caught blatantly cheating like bitches

[2daBank]

Bank his mom gave him the boot about 6 months ago. She was sick of a 26 year old man wearing jeans and t-shirts 3 sizes too big.

Embarrassing.

He admitted this on here he's been living under a park bench using the public library computers when he can sneak past the head librarian.

Sadly demo was banned for life after he pissed his baggy jeans during a cold nights sleep, and others in the library complained of the stench.

white wanna be gang banger from the rough streets of fresno.. if his dumb ass mother raised him right he wouldnt have still been living at home at 26, i bet she still collects the food stamps claiming him tho.. hey wigger if you ever need the money i give 50 cents on the dollar fr food stams so you can get your fix of coke and shoes..

[Killer_Demo]

white wanna be gang banger from the rough streets of fresno.. if his dumb ass mother raised him right he wouldnt have still been living at home at 26, i bet she still collects the food stamps claiming him tho.. hey wigger if you ever need the money i give 50 cents on the dollar fr food stams so you can get your fix of coke and shoes..

30K posts guy need to control his own life instead of worrying about others. 10 to 1 odds this guy cant see his cokk over the fat-roll stomach

[2daBank]

30K posts guy need to control his own life instead of worrying about others 10 to 1 odds this guy cant see his cokk over the fat-roll stomach

escro it to a paypal account and ill bet you even money i can bench more weight than money you have to your name.. and yea ill except your food stamps for your money.. should be easy to do,, i got 5k , ill post vid of me at the gym hitting 365 on the bench and dead lifting 405.. put up or shut up wigger..