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    Snowball
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    TNF: G-Men at Skins. discuss.

    got to think about this one. tough to call now that the Giants
    put in an impressive performance vs Houston. Does Eli have
    the new system down yet ? He threw 2 TD's. Jennings ran for
    176 yards. Giant defense looked better. Coughlin making roster moves
    on OL. What is going on with the G-Men. Can they salvage this poor
    start and get back to .500 on hostile turf ?
    is Kirk Cousins for real ? Does he earn a spot over RG3 or a starter spot
    on another team ? Is Jay Gruden ready to out-coach Tom Coughlin ?
    Is Jim Haslett's defense up to the job or is the new Giants offense
    going to prove too unknown to them ?
    Discuss leans and scoring theories.

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    Leaning over 45
    kirk should light it up, hoping Eli follows last weeks performance
    both defences under average

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    Giants

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    tough game

    leaning Giants +4

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    Over would be the only play I'd consider right now. Hoping homer money gets it closer to -3 so I can jump on the skins by game time.

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    ^^ Agree with above poster. If line hits -3, I will be on the skins.

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    skins front 7 is really good, they among the best at stopping the run. you can def pass on that shit secondary but i dont think eli gonna be real effective or play a turnover free game w/o the aid of a strong run gm.. home teams win these thu night shitfest like 68% of the time, just not real fair for the road team traveling on a short week.. to me this line same as it would be if that scrub rg3 was playing but i have them several points better with cousins under center, i played skins-3 -130...

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    If I can get -3, I will probably be on Skins as well. But I think I like the over better.

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    can't dispute that argument, 2da.. makes sense.. perhaps the trap is to
    read too much into this latest Giants win.. after all, they were at home
    and it's going to more difficult to execute a new offense with the noise
    at RFK.. or whatever they call that place these days.

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    Over

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    The Skins aka Cousins will light that weak NY defense up. They have a better offense and defense than the Giants. I see them winning by atleast 7. Look for 2 picks from Manning.

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    everyone leaning over... so you know what to do...

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    I was kind of expecting skins to be a bigger fave. Anyone else think the line looks short? Maybe my perception of Skins is too high and GMen is too low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    I was kind of expecting skins to be a bigger fave. Anyone else think the line looks short? Maybe my perception of Skins is too high and GMen is too low.
    It opened at -5.5...which I think was reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DubMoney88 View Post
    The Skins aka Cousins will light that weak NY defense up. They have a better offense and defense than the Giants. I see them winning by atleast 7. Look for 2 picks from Manning.
    I love these posts.
    "Look for 2 picks from manning".
    Bro , stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    can't dispute that argument, 2da.. makes sense.. perhaps the trap is to
    read too much into this latest Giants win.. after all, they were at home
    and it's going to more difficult to execute a new offense with the noise
    at RFK.. or whatever they call that place these days.
    I took gmen against hou so not surprised or gonna give them more credit than they deserve. Bottom line is they beat a terrible qb and a shitty run defense. IMO skins would have done the same if cousins was playing week 1, they did hold hou to 2 Tds and 1 was off a blocked punt.. I think skins d is better than they get credit for, granted the back end is bad but the front 7 is really good. Again what do you think Eli looks like if his rb isn't dominating the gm? I tend to think not all that great and turnover prone if he forced to chuck it up 40 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    everyone leaning over... so you know what to do...
    Divisional gm and thu night, wouldn't shock me at all if both front 7s played well and this was a lot uglier than ppl expect. I played last thu night over but it ain't something I try and make a habit of, in fact used to auto bet the 1st half under on all these thu night cash grabs..

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    neither of these teams deserve much respect at all .. philly put up 37 in
    come from behind vs redskins.. allowed a k/o return 102 yds.. you know there
    is so much over-talk and conjecture and expectations across the media on
    radio, internet, tv, bla bla bla - we all get overloaded with talking points and
    opinions to the extent that it's actually hard not to be influenced by these
    assumptions subconsciously... i am watching the over 45.5 hoping it gets
    to 47... but i doubt it will..
    the art of picking NFL is the art of filtering the hype from the truth.

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    id play the under as well at 47, cant see it getting higher than 46 tho.. it will prob go under 45 but i think that number bout right..

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    So far favorites have been covering easily in the TNF games. I feel like the past two years dogs were covering at a decent rate for TNF games

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    Over is 8-2 in primetime games this year. RG2.5 isn't making 2 yd runs and throws anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by survive View Post
    So far favorites have been covering easily in the TNF games. I feel like the past two years dogs were covering at a decent rate for TNF games
    home team is what covering mostly.. they win like 68% of these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred The Hammer View Post
    Over is 8-2 in primetime games this year. RG2.5 isn't making 2 yd runs and throws anymore

    so you think you can just continue to bet overs every prime time game and be up from this point at end of year? maybe based off the way gms are officiated, hell ive bet 4 of last 5 or so, doubt that clip keeps up.. i love skins without that bum 3, still think we talking bout a gm played in the low 20s. maybe 27-20 skins which why id most likely leave total alone unless it got bet all the way to 47, kinda lean to more like 24-20 tho.. im betting skins till i think numbers have adjusted for cousins, thus far looks to me like he valued bout the same as rg2.5 so think there a argument to back the skins.. of coarse if 3 was playing and it would prob have been a solid -3 and id have backed gmen ml quick, so maybe a slight adjustment has been made, i made it -4 with cousins..

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    well i made up my mind concerning this TNF. Sticking to it..
    Going with the Skins +3.5 in a teaser with other things.
    That's about the extent I want to get involved here.
    Let's see if they don't mess it up.

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    Why do people continue to tease across 0? Biggest mistake in all of sports betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    so you think you can just continue to bet overs every prime time game and be up from this point at end of year? maybe based off the way gms are officiated, hell ive bet 4 of last 5 or so, doubt that clip keeps up.. i love skins without that bum 3, still think we talking bout a gm played in the low 20s. maybe 27-20 skins which why id most likely leave total alone unless it got bet all the way to 47, kinda lean to more like 24-20 tho.. im betting skins till i think numbers have adjusted for cousins, thus far looks to me like he valued bout the same as rg2.5 so think there a argument to back the skins.. of coarse if 3 was playing and it would prob have been a solid -3 and id have backed gmen ml quick, so maybe a slight adjustment has been made, i made it -4 with cousins..
    Last 5 NYG at Wash Under and I'm sure Eli had better weapons in those 5 then he does now. I agree with you that the Over seems sketchy? I like Washington here but the Thurs home fav prob not a big deal with the short travel and a div rival that the Giants know well.
    Tough one to call at this point? I did like Cousins out of Mich State though....underrated. He beat a more talented Georgia team in their last bowl game and the Big Ten doesn't beat the SEC very often anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawg200 View Post
    Why do people continue to tease across 0? Biggest mistake in all of sports betting.
    that is a generality. i usually don't cross -0- either, although i'm yet to
    see any statistical proof that teasers which cross the line fail more than ones which do not. it doesn't mean Skins +3.5 will fail.

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    HMMMM You gottra remember,this is a PRO game,NOT a college game.....What he did last week doesn't matter this week....What he needs to do is WIN....I certainly think he will do just that, "WIN" Wash. -3.5 for my bet....

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    WOW Does no one even consider that the gamble part of a bet may just be the reason we gamble anyway.....I play ALOT of parlays just don't talk about it...hit a $10.00 on 3 teams last week,,,I've hit I honestly don't know how many 2 team parlays this year so far,,,,I don't even consider a 2 team as playing,,,it just doesn't rilllle my gambler in me any....( if you kno what I meen )

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwinkle53 View Post
    WOW Does no one even consider that the gamble part of a bet may just be the reason we gamble anyway.....I play ALOT of parlays just don't talk about it...hit a $10.00 on 3 teams last week,,,I've hit I honestly don't know how many 2 team parlays this year so far,,,,I don't even consider a 2 team as playing,,,it just doesn't rilllle my gambler in me any....( if you kno what I meen )
    I do not comprehend

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    Giants are back.

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    Kirk Cousins has started four games as a pro. He has won all but three of them.

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    Giants here. Same as when bears were underdog Monday. Coin flipmwatch so taking giants. Who cares if it's on tha road.

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    giants giving 2.5 on a pleaser is good r/r i think...

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    Been pouring all night and this morning here in DC, wouldn't be surprised if the field is really sloppy tonight. Under might be the play, public very heavy on the over

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