[GUMMO77]

Exactly, video doesnt show that and its obvious there was something at least verbal going on before the video.

Oh, verbal.

[jarvol]

Forsett isn't big enough to hold up as the starting back. He is a 3rd down and situational back otherwise he will be hurt and Bernard Pierce will be the main back.

[crustyme]

Do you really feel if she started the fight by hitting him first, they'd be well okay, knocking her out was justified?

where did i say that?

the example i gave was had she attacked him with a knife, it would've been justified. of course there are other scenarios where it would be justified.... but what the video confirms is that this wasn't one of them. not even close.

[crustyme]

So you think he just did that and nothing happened before we see them entering the elevator? Cmon.

so it's ok to spit on someone, slap them and knock them unconscious if youre have a verbal argument?



it doesnt matter what precipitated the assault. what matters is ray lied about what happened in the elevator.

[jjgold]

A lot of wife beaters in this thread

what a shame

[t-wizzle]

where did i say that?

the example i gave was had she attacked him with a knife, it would've been justified. of course there are other scenarios where it would be justified.... but what the video confirms is that this wasn't one of them. not even close.

Only a stupid fukk like you would use this kind of logic.

Why would you even bring up the "knife" argument. It's completely irrelevant and so are you.

[El Nino]

And black people do only wrong in yours and most of SBR?

Nope, just what I've noticed from jtoler's posts. Go check out the Ferguson thread. Self defense here by Ray Rice? Really? The situation is indefensible and jtoler is attempting to defend Rice's actions.

[jtoler]

Nope, just what I've noticed from jtoler's posts. Go check out the Ferguson thread. Self defense here by Ray Rice? Really? The situation is indefensible and jtoler is attempting to defend Rice's actions.

That was before I saw the whole vid, first one I saw started with her charging him.

[El Nino]

So I gather from this El Nino would say Michael Brown of Ferguson Missouri did no wrong even though the video tape showed him stealing and shoving the store clerk? Wrong is wrong you hypocrite El Nino!!

Completely off topic. My issue with that situation was the looting and violence that occurred happened without all the facts. As in this case, there are many people with egg on their faces for acting too early.

[crustyme]

Only a stupid fukk like you would use this kind of logic.

Why would you even bring up the "knife" argument. It's completely irrelevant and so are you.

you must be jizzing yourself getting tons of views and replies in your thread thanks to that video. that's what brokedikkk airbetting attention whores like you dream about, which is why you create 100s of threads every day hoping it hits the attention whore lottery.

finally, seeking self esteem and self worth on an internet forum from strangers has finally paid off for you. enjoy it, because you'll return to being a completely worthless loser who everyone ignores tomorrow.

lol

[t-wizzle]

you must be jizzing yourself getting tons of views and replies in your thread thanks to that video. that's what brokedikkk airbetting attention whores like you dream about, which is why you create 100s of threads every day hoping it hits the attention whore lottery.

finally, seeking self esteem and self worth on an internet forum from strangers has finally paid off for you. enjoy it, because you'll return to being a completely worthless loser who everyone ignores tomorrow.

lol

...Says the guy who created this gem hoping to be the first to break the news only to have it moved to someone else's thread that was already created.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post22564959

[jtoler]

Completely off topic. My issue with that situation was the looting and violence that occurred happened without all the facts. As in this case, there are many people with egg on their faces for acting too early.

Only person who should have egg on their face is Godell if he had already seen this tape we saw today.

[TwoWays]

I wonder if magic Johnson had a hand in this cover up. Who is the next black commissioner

[crustyme]

...Says the guy who created this gem hoping to be the first to break the news only to have it moved to someone else's thread that was already created.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post22564959

posted at the same time. what a moron.

lol

if it were you, you would have conversations with your ghosts (lakerboy, jr007, goatboy, mickeymouseboy, sneakerhead, etc) to keep bumping it to the top.

[El Nino]

Only person who should have egg on their face is Godell if he had already seen this tape we saw today.

Agree with that. If this is what it takes for the league to wake up, then so be it. Violence should always be treated more harshly than recreational weed use.

[teaserpleaser]

I wonder if magic Johnson had a hand in this cover up. Who is the next black commissioner

magic johnson

[teaserpleaser]

posted at the same time. what a moron.

lol

if it were you, you would have conversations with your ghosts (lakerboy, jr007, goatboy, mickeymouseboy, sneakerhead, etc) to keep bumping it to the top.

dude isn't that bright

[CarterTown]

Wow. Hot issue. I dated a chick who had a right hook like tyson. Caught two of them during the course of our relationship. Not sure if I deserved them or not but what I do know is that I had a part in escalating both situations to that point. Do some women deserve a smack every now and then yes probably. But a real man just doesn't do that s***. men are accountable and responsible and we can't fly off the handle and do every f****** thing that our emotions tell us to. With that being said the Ravens had no right to release him because of pressure from the media and all the special interest groups. politics in sports is the worst.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Why was this released other than pressure from outside sources on the NFL. It was surmised what happened in the elevator without seeing footage, hypocrisy here.

The video is a "Get it right" move by the NFL. Like you wrote, we all knew he punched her, but Goodall needed a reason to do, what should have been done before, but wasn't. Remember that memo?

[DrStale]

The video is a "Get it right" move by the NFL. Like you wrote, we all knew he punched her, but Goodall needed a reason to do, what should have been done before, but wasn't. Remember that memo?

But he went from a 2 game suspension to deciding that domestic violence should warrant a 6 game suspension. Then the video comes out and now the suspensions indefinite? Guy has no clue what hes doing.

[thetrinity]

But he went from a 2 game suspension to deciding that domestic violence should warrant a 6 game suspension. Then the video comes out and now the suspensions indefinite? Guy has no clue what hes doing.

i was just about to post this same thing and you beat me to it. they make a policy because people are incensed that rice only got 2 games and now a damning video comes out and he gets pete rose treatment. goodell is an over emotional clown, need a level headed guy in there.

[RavensFan2k3]

So you think he just did that and nothing happened before we see them entering the elevator? Cmon.

Exactly. From what we know, this is out of character for him. Very unfortunate situation for Janay, and for Ray. I wish they would have acted when this first happened because I dont understand how seeing it on video changes anything. We didnt learn anything new from the video. People want to act like we didnt really know what happened. We did, and Ray confirmed it already.

where did i say that?

the example i gave was had she attacked him with a knife, it would've been justified. of course there are other scenarios where it would be justified.... but what the video confirms is that this wasn't one of them. not even close.

I didnt say you said that, I asked if you think that. You didnt need the video to know she didnt attack him with a knife tho. So Im asking what other scenarios that could have possibly happened that elevator so you think would have justified his actions?

[RavensFan2k3]

Wow. Hot issue. I dated a chick who had a right hook like tyson. Caught two of them during the course of our relationship. Not sure if I deserved them or not but what I do know is that I had a part in escalating both situations to that point. Do some women deserve a smack every now and then yes probably. But a real man just doesn't do that s***. men are accountable and responsible and we can't fly off the handle and do every f****** thing that our emotions tell us to. With that being said the Ravens had no right to release him because of pressure from the media and all the special interest groups. politics in sports is the worst.

Agreed

But he went from a 2 game suspension to deciding that domestic violence should warrant a 6 game suspension. Then the video comes out and now the suspensions indefinite? Guy has no clue what hes doing.

Agreed

[smitch124]

Didn't sports leagues used to let law enforcement handle penalties for illegal activities . This response is so transparent and pathetic.

[Bostongambler]

He only made 44 million last year. He can't make these decisions

[thetrinity]

Didn't sports leagues used to let law enforcement handle penalties for illegal activities . This response is so transparent and pathetic.

rice fiance wouldnt testify against him, thats why there was no trial.

[CarterTown]

NFL Blew this....I was just reading that when it happened ray actually describes exactly what the video shows...so basically the visual of this is what has caused this reaction or should I say knee jerk reaction. I'm wondering if the Ravens saw this as a chance to get out of their contract with what could be a running back that's slipping just a bit. either way it's totally f*****. you guys should read all the bullshit that the head coach was saying about ray and how proud he was and respected he was for coming out and just taking the blame and telling everything that he did. Shit aint right.

[jjgold]

Bottom line is Ray Rice is finished and will end up broke

Doesn't matter anymore

Two years ago he was a celebrity now is in the gutter

[Bostongambler]

Poison. No one will even touch him.

[Bostongambler]

Better chance of A Hernandez getting signed if he escaped from jail.

[CarterTown]

Bottom line is Ray Rice is finished and will end up broke


Doesn't matter anymore

Two years ago he was a celebrity now is in the gutter

Really? I feel like next year he'll get picked up for a very low salary. One year one million.

[CarterTown]

Better chance of A Hernandez getting signed if he escaped from jail.

We need a pinal league. Six teams where all players are in prison. All proceeds go to they victims. A load of great players.

[smitch124]

NFL Blew this....I was just reading that when it happened ray actually describes exactly what the video shows...so basically the visual of this is what has caused this reaction or should I say knee jerk reaction. I'm wondering if the Ravens saw this as a chance to get out of their contract with what could be a running back that's slipping just a bit. either way it's totally f*****. you guys should read all the bullshit that the head coach was saying about ray and how proud he was and respected he was for coming out and just taking the blame and telling everything that he did. Shit aint right.

It's safe to say that all decisions made have nothing to do with defending the rights of women, but protecting the brand.

[El Nino]

rice fiance wouldnt testify against him, thats why there was no trial.

No longer relevant in most DV cases as the State will prosecute based on evidence and not whether the victim testifies or not. Takes away the fear of the victim or reluctance for the victim to testify based on love/fear/intimidation by the defendant. In this case you had video of the battery, which you rarely do. It was an open and shut case for felony domestic battery, most likely aggravated due to the extent of the injury sustained. This case was fukked up by multiple people. Obviously each state is different, but this seems to be the new way to do DV cases as the state cannot compel a wife to testify against her husband and the relationship aspect makes it difficult for women to testify against their abusers.

[eidolon]

Looks like she is trying to stab him with a knife in her left hand. Looks like self-defense